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				Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:26 am
				by KBCraig
				propellerhead wrote:I think he's just pointing out how vague the definition is. It seems simple but it always brings a lot of question.
'Zackly.
The Legislature did an excellent job of defining "premises" in 46.035. It's rare that a legislative body can "define" something without raising more questions than answers.
As a rule, the more narrow the definition, the more questions are raised. Witness "school": defensive driving school? beauty school? Trucking driving school? Sunday school? dog obedience classes?
Kevin
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:28 am
				by KBCraig
				Charles L. Cotton wrote:
I know what he's doing, he's telling me to get to work; right Kevin?  
 
 
Chas.
 
Your mission, should you choose to accept it...
...This tape will self destruct in 3...2...1...
 
 
 
Kevin
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:51 am
				by Roger Howard
				Charles L. Cotton wrote:propellerhead wrote:I think he's just pointing out how vague the definition is. It seems simple but it always brings a lot of question.
I know what he's doing, he's telling me to get to work; right Kevin?  
 
 
Chas.
 
Not fixed yet? What's the problem? Thought you could do anything. 

 
			
					
				professional sporting event???
				Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:42 am
				by switch
				First, there are two lists that you are getting confused.  One list applies to everyone (SCRAP _ Schools, Courts, Racetracks, Airports and Polling Places).  This list contains Racetrack and ONLY applies where there is parimutual betting - horse and dog tracks.
The other list ONLY applies to CHL's - (Jails/Correctional facilities, Intersholastic/Professional sporting events, and Bars)  [It used to have 7 places listed but they 'repealed' Amusement Parks, Churches, Hospital/Nursing homes and Government meetings in 1997].  The Professional Sporting event would include auto races, pro-golf, Ranger games and Cowboy games (Would you consider the Cowboys 'professinal athletes'?)   

   I assume the pro means paid participants OR paid admission.
When you go to the TX State Fair on TX/OU day, they warn you 'Don't carry in the Cotton Bowl'.
I need to pull one of my CHL handbooks and read what it says about 'professional'.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:57 pm
				by G36Packer
				Thanks all. 
I wouldn't think paid admission would be a factor. They charge admission amateur TaeKwonDo tournaments to cover expenses.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:09 pm
				by propellerhead
				I don't think paying admission makes it a professional sports event. I'm a little doubtful that having amateur participants who might get awarded a cash prize also makes it a professional sports event. I think it's only when the participants are sponsored and paid even if they lose. That what I think makes it a professional sports event.
			 
			
					
				Definition of Professional Sporting event????
				Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:42 pm
				by switch
				KBCraig wrote:C'mon, folks... the definition of "professional sporting event" is right there beside the definition of "school".
Just scroll down past the definitions of dirk, dagger, and Bowie knife.
 
 
 
Kevin
 
I looked for it but could not find it.
If we are having this much trouble defining a 'professional sporting event', imagine how much fun it would be to watch a jury decide if you had violated this law.   

 
			
					
				Re: Definition of Professional Sporting event????
				Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:45 am
				by KBCraig
				switch wrote:KBCraig wrote:C'mon, folks... the definition of "professional sporting event" is right there beside the definition of "school".
Just scroll down past the definitions of dirk, dagger, and Bowie knife.
 
 
 
 
I looked for it but could not find it.
 
Bingo!
ding-ding-ding, We have a winner!
There is no definition of "school". Nor "professional sporting event", nor "dirk", "dagger", or "bowie knife".
Kevin
 
			
					
				Re: Definition of Professional Sporting event????
				Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:07 pm
				by txinvestigator
				KBCraig wrote:switch wrote:KBCraig wrote:C'mon, folks... the definition of "professional sporting event" is right there beside the definition of "school".
Just scroll down past the definitions of dirk, dagger, and Bowie knife.
 
 
 
 
I looked for it but could not find it.
 
Bingo!
ding-ding-ding, We have a winner!
There is no definition of "school". Nor "professional sporting event", nor "dirk", "dagger", or "bowie knife".
If we are having this much trouble defining a 'professional sporting event', imagine how much fun it would be to watch a jury decide if you had violated this law.   
 
Kevin
 
Yes, but EVERY CHL holder knows that of you arrive at the gate for a Dallas Cowboys football game and realize that you are carrying you should;
lock your handgun safely in your car.   

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:42 pm
				by Jeff Crotzer
				I had a fellow CHL holder ask me the other day if Professional Wrestling (WWE) is considered a sport. Good question? They call it Sports entertainment. Wrestlers are paid and wrestling is a sport.
Does anyone have a take on this one?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:05 pm
				by Venus Pax
				I would think, since many spectators are drunk, it would qualify under the 51% rule.