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Hey Keith, or anyone,Keith B wrote:What you more than likely saw was this sign:
This sign is required at any location that sells alcohol for on or off-premise consumption and makes less that 51% of its revenue from the alcohol sales. It is OK to carry past as long as they don't have a 30.06 sign posted also.
Yes, any TABC-licensed establishment has to post one of the two signs. 51% establishments are required to post the red 51% sign. Everyone else who sells under a TABC license has to post the sign above. Now, whether this happens in reality is another story. There are also the confused merchants (mainly restaurants in my experience) who improperly post 51% signs even though they are obviously not 51% locations. The stickler in the law is that it depends on if they are actually 51% locations as determined by TABC, not what signs they post.dihappy wrote:Hey Keith, or anyone,Keith B wrote:What you more than likely saw was this sign:
This sign is required at any location that sells alcohol for on or off-premise consumption and makes less that 51% of its revenue from the alcohol sales. It is OK to carry past as long as they don't have a 30.06 sign posted also.
Do you know if that sign is actually "REQUIRED" for businessess who choose NOT to post a 30.06?
Edit: I think i found the answer on TABC website, and i think the sign is a requirement.
Yes, but it is > 51% of revenue from alcohol consumed on the premises. A liquor store is a blue sign and you can certainly carry in one even though they probably make way more than 50% of revenue from booze.Keith B wrote: If the location sells alcohol AT ALL, then by law they must post one of two signs; either the sign above if they make under 51% of their revenue from alcohol sales, or a 51% sign if more that 51% of their revenue from alcohol.
You will see WAY more of the unlicensed signs since the majority of the locations sell other things to gain the majority of their revenue from, but they still have to post a sign per the TABC laws.
Your code needs a revisionandroid wrote:Here's my software engineering view of the whole deal
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if (legal 30.06 sign is present) && ($PROPERTY != "Government Owned or Leased")
{
go away.
]
else
If (you can buy booze there) :cool:
{
if ( you can drink it there) :cheers2:
{
if (revenue from booze > 51%) :anamatedbanana :anamatedbanana
{
leave gun at home :rules:
}
}
}
else carry away :thumbs2:
That sign refers to TABC Section 61.11 and Tx Penal Code 46.02 (below)stvbrx wrote:Here is the sign:
It is different from everything discussed in this thread so far.
I tend to agree with you. This is exactly correct. That is the old sign that was required by TABC and the Code before the CHL laws passed. It is not valid and should have been replaced.RPB wrote:Essentially, I'd consider that an outdated BLUE TABC *under 51%* sign and you can carry there.
I see one flaw in your program; 51% sign or not, it is still illegal to carry in a 51% establishment. The only think the absence of a red sign provides is a DEFENSE to prosecution only. You can still be arrested.RPB wrote:For you programmers/scripters:
LOL
My "program"
IF no compliant red 51% sign
AND no compliant 30.06 sign
AND not an otherwise a place prohibited to carry/Federal Property/School/Court Building/etc.
IGNORE all non-compliant signs and smile.
if you cant count on the legally required signs how are you expected to know what % of the revenue comes from what ?Keith B wrote: I see one flaw in your program; 51% sign or not, it is still illegal to carry in a 51% establishment. The only think the absence of a red sign provides is a DEFENSE to prosecution only. You can still be arrested.