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Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:40 am
by Oldgringo
Fire 'em all and let's start over.
It's way past time that we had people in office looking after the people instead of themselves - on all levels.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:45 am
by marksiwel
ugh watched some Highlights on the local news, Perry is such a (I cant even use the words I want to use, self edit) why do we keep electing this person? It cant be his personality or his job performance. Its just people voting for the party and not the person, believe it or not there are great Democrats and Independents running for office.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:50 am
by Shorts
Purplehood wrote:The Moderator: Absolutely thrilled to have the "honor" of asking Governor Perry a question. Any question.
The Old Dude: Was gunning for Senator Hutchinson. Don't think that he noticed that there were other people in the debate.
The Cute Hispanic Chick: Asked Deborah Medina about guns. Told the moderator that she didn't have to roll so many letter R's when introducing her.
Governor Perry: Fresh die-job on the hair. Compared himself to Ronald Reagan. Appeared to be continually unprepared and surprised by almost every question.
Deborah Medina: Knowledgeable. Level-headed and good delivery. Excellent presentation.
Senator Hutchinson: Why the downgrade from ranking Senator to Governor of Texas? Absolutely and unequivocally refused to answer Yes or No on the question regarding the overturning of Roe vs. Wade. Not to knock lawyers, but she is a perfect example of a lawyer not wanting to be pinned down for making a plain and simple statement.
Very amateur presentation of a debate. 19-year old Johns Hopkins student in audience asked a fairly intelligent question and completely stumped the Governor, who was not even aware of the Law/Act in question (though he was Lt. Governor at the time). Medina was aware and jumped on it.
haha Yeah, you could almost hear the cricket chirping by the look on his face when he babbled his answer.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:57 am
by stash
Did I misunderstand the question, the answer or what when Medina said she wanted to do away with gun registration? On a side note she seemed to do OK in my opinion for the first time out. That Dallas newspaper poll has her at 79%, Kay at 10% and Rick at 9%.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:04 am
by billfromtx
gemini wrote:I'm getting tired of KB and Rick going at each other. Ms Medina is giving straight answers and
correct info. So far, I like what Ms Medina is saying. I will be following her in this race.
+1
I like her!...She's got my vote.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:05 am
by marksiwel
billfromtx wrote:gemini wrote:I'm getting tired of KB and Rick going at each other. Ms Medina is giving straight answers and
correct info. So far, I like what Ms Medina is saying. I will be following her in this race.
+1
I like her!...She's got my vote.
Me too
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:13 am
by Shorts
stash wrote:Did I misunderstand the question, the answer or what when Medina said she wanted to do away with gun registration? On a side note she seemed to do OK in my opinion for the first time out. That Dallas newspaper poll has her at 79%, Kay at 10% and Rick at 9%.
What is your question?
She said she wants to do away with gun registration. What wasn't said however was that Texas has no gun registration. I did want to hear her elaborate on the specific gun issues she would address
in Texas. That may have been a strategic move to hold that info close to her chest in order not to tip off opposition that would arise in the legislative process. Or she didn't have specifics to share. I'm curious how she intends to tackle federal gun laws.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:55 am
by stash
Shorts - That's what I meant. Texas does not have gun registration. How can you get rid of something that you don't have.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:56 am
by Purplehood
Shorts wrote:stash wrote:Did I misunderstand the question, the answer or what when Medina said she wanted to do away with gun registration? On a side note she seemed to do OK in my opinion for the first time out. That Dallas newspaper poll has her at 79%, Kay at 10% and Rick at 9%.
What is your question?
She said she wants to do away with gun registration. What wasn't said however was that Texas has no gun registration. I did want to hear her elaborate on the specific gun issues she would address
in Texas. That may have been a strategic move to hold that info close to her chest in order not to tip off opposition that would arise in the legislative process. Or she didn't have specifics to share. I'm curious how she intends to tackle federal gun laws.
I interpreted her response as the State should have the final say over any gun laws, and that the Feds did not have that power specified in the Constitution in the first place.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:59 am
by joe817
stash wrote:Shorts - That's what I meant. Texas does not have gun registration. How can you get rid of something that you don't have.
When she said that, I said "huh?" That threw me too. Her saying that almost implies she's not aware there is no gun registration in Texas. And that disappointed me greatly.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:23 am
by Purplehood
joe817 wrote:stash wrote:Shorts - That's what I meant. Texas does not have gun registration. How can you get rid of something that you don't have.
When she said that, I said "huh?" That threw me too. Her saying that almost implies she's not aware there is no gun registration in Texas. And that disappointed me greatly.
She probably is not aware of that. I sense that she is a neophyte when it comes to awareness of Gun Laws in Texas (unlike her apparent knowledge on many other issues, but we all have our shortcomings), BUT, when it comes to her almost Libertarian viewpoint on States rights she is very vocal in her opposition to gun regulations in general. This I do like.
EDIT: I almost wish that the TSRA would sit down with her and polish her up on gun-related issues in TX. But that might imply endorsing her candidacy...
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:34 am
by Shorts
joe817 wrote:stash wrote:Shorts - That's what I meant. Texas does not have gun registration. How can you get rid of something that you don't have.
When she said that, I said "huh?" That threw me too. Her saying that almost implies she's not aware there is no gun registration in Texas. And that disappointed me greatly.
Exactly. My husband and I looked at each other, surprised that she said that. I do hope that her intentions is to press the issue of Texas' sovereignty to combat Fed laws.
Purplehood, I think you're right. She does need to sit down and learn the details, especially if she's running on those particular issues. Now, she may be able to draw Texans to her with her broad ideas and progun talk (I like it and no property tax!). But for those of us who are intimate with gun legislation and details, she needs to have more to give. Otherwise, she'd be going into Austin without specific goals or plans where she can easily get stalemated. And that won't help us.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:34 am
by wgoforth
Please understand that I am not telling others what to believe or not to believe on this issue, just trying to make others aware..... I was very interested in Medina after reading her website. I continued to be interested until I saw in one interview she was asked about legalizing drugs. She actually said her staff is looking into it and considering it. My first thought was "hmm.....shades of Ron Paul." Again, if you like them, fine. I agree he is on the money 95% of the time, but the 5% of the time I disagree, I consider it a major disagreement and deal breaker for me. As I searched more, found that indeed, she is a Ron Paul supporter.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:37 am
by Shorts
I wasn't particularly fond of the drug legalization idea. I'm not about to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do, but I don't support that.
IF such a measure was actualized, I imagine there would be a a few new issues arise to contend with. It could end up being something that had good intentions but unintended consequences. I don't know.
Re: Republican Governors debate
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:43 am
by Texgun
Regarding the gun registration comment, I interpreted that she was referring to gun registration/confiscation as a global issue based on human history. It is clear to me she unequivocally supports the right to keep and bear arms. There was nothing in her message that suggested a lack of knowledge on Texas gun laws.