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The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

I was under the impression that a blade of less than 2 inches could puncture either the heart or the lungs. Am I wrong or is their definition of "short pointed knife" really, really short"?

Not impossible, but unlikely. For the most part...the heart and lungs are protected by the rib cage...so unless you get "compression" of this structure...little (if any) real damage could be done.

However, once you move away from the rib cage (to soft tissues)...a short blade IS still a very real threat for a couple of reasons:

1. The area around the stomach and lower back are easily compressed...allowing even a short blade (2") to reach vital organs with significant effect.

2. Anywhere I can take a "pulse" on your body (Neck, Wrist, Groin, Inner Bicep) I can sever major arteries/vessels with even a 3/4" blade (yes....I said 3/4").

ALL edged weapons should be taken seriously, but I think Excaliber explains the real problem in his excellent post above.


Flint.

ifanyonecan wrote:I have never cut anyone (except myself ) or threatened anyone with it. Nobody could ever argue to me that my knife is a weapon; it simply isn't. It's a tool.

BINGO!

And to Excaliber.

I have never used my knife to do anything but open a letter or a packing box, or maybe to cut the zip tie off my gun after a gun show. But, it would make a nasty weapon if I ever had to use it that way.

Purpose is defined largely by intent. That is even true for my carry gun. Its purpose is self-defense, not criminal enterprise.

If you want to make somebody voluntarily quit the fight, all that is necessary is to slash and slice to shallow depths. And it'll sure look a lot better for you compared to a dagger buried up to the hilt in the perp's chest when the cops arrive. Don't know what the circumstances here, but for the sake of illustration let's say these wounds were administered by a rape victim on her attacker with a small karambit carried around the neck.

People are already doing that. Read the clinical trials on Prozac and other antidepressants. Just about all of North Dallas is on "happy pills" and birth control pills. Funny, how poor people are not on "happy pills" and cannot be controlled. Witness North Dallas, there are a lot of cameras on street corners controlling how people drive their cars. These same cameras were stolen right off the street in South Dallas. People in South Dallas don't take "happy pills" so they can't be controlled. Obamacare REQUIRES insurance because he wants it to be REQUIRED to take "happy pills".

marksiwel wrote:

its going to end with the goverment making people take Happy Pills so they will be more docile.

(British )"Scouts banned from carrying knives..."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 824181.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It makes me weep - I'm glad I left.

Good Lord... I hate to sound like a weeny but that picture is impossible to look at without flinching. No kidding... could you turn that into a link or something????

LOL... I wanted to throw in my 2 pennies. Aside from trying to scroll past that picture without looking...LOL.

It is ironic to me that the very folks trying to ban all weapons in the name of safety are typically the very ones that will need a weapon to equalize the odds if they are attacked. "Forgive them for they know not what they do". In the effort to achieve safety they are actually rendering themselves helpless in the face of tyranny.

Skydivesnake wrote:(British )"Scouts banned from carrying knives..."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 824181.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It makes me weep - I'm glad I left.

I really don’t know what to say about this.

Unbelievable.

I got my first Barlow pocket knife way back the year before I started school. I still remember it was an old Barlow that my Uncle gave me out of the case in his general store. I honestly can't remember not having one in my pocket on purpose EXCEPT to get on an airplane, or go in the courthouse in the 50 years since.

I seem to recall reading somewhere (don't remember where) that, if you can stick a finger in the BG's eye and keep pushing, then wiggle the finger around a bit, you'll have a BG with a slightly scrambled brain...your manicure might need retouching, but that's life. I haven't had occasion to try it, but makes me wonder how long before UK contemplates banning fingers!

5thGenTexan wrote:I got my first Barlow pocket knife way back the year before I started school. I still remember it was an old Barlow that my Uncle gave me out of the case in his general store. I honestly can't remember not having one in my pocket on purpose EXCEPT to get on an airplane, or go in the courthouse in the 50 years since.

And that, my friends, is how they do it. One tiny bit at a time...

FWIW, I remember taking a pocket knife both on planes and in court buildings, perfectly lawfully.

catwoman wrote:I seem to recall reading somewhere (don't remember where) that, if you can stick a finger in the BG's eye and keep pushing, then wiggle the finger around a bit, you'll have a BG with a slightly scrambled brain...your manicure might need retouching, but that's life. I haven't had occasion to try it, but makes me wonder how long before UK contemplates banning fingers!

This has to be one of my all time favorite posts.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

catwoman wrote:I seem to recall reading somewhere (don't remember where) that, if you can stick a finger in the BG's eye and keep pushing, then wiggle the finger around a bit, you'll have a BG with a slightly scrambled brain...your manicure might need retouching, but that's life. I haven't had occasion to try it, but makes me wonder how long before UK contemplates banning fingers!

This has to be one of my all time favorite posts.

My eyes are watering just reading this.

USA1 wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

catwoman wrote:I seem to recall reading somewhere (don't remember where) that, if you can stick a finger in the BG's eye and keep pushing, then wiggle the finger around a bit, you'll have a BG with a slightly scrambled brain...your manicure might need retouching, but that's life. I haven't had occasion to try it, but makes me wonder how long before UK contemplates banning fingers!

This has to be one of my all time favorite posts.

My eyes are watering just reading this.

I thought I was reading this thread for a minute: http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic. ... uck+norris

03Lightningrocks wrote:LOL... I wanted to throw in my 2 pennies. Aside from trying to scroll past that picture without looking...LOL.

It is ironic to me that the very folks trying to ban all weapons in the name of safety are typically the very ones that will need a weapon to equalize the odds if they are attacked. "Forgive them for they know not what they do". In the effort to achieve safety they are actually rendering themselves helpless in the face of tyranny.

No kidding. That is why I love in movies when a character is handed a gun and they something like "you know I dont like guns"..... then later on they actually need and use the gun to kill the bad guy.

I am guessing the UK knife ban is their (over)reaction to the rise if knife-related crime. Hmmm, if only they allowed concealed carry guns, I bet their crime rate would go down.