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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:44 pm
by Venus Pax
I really see your predicament.
Here's a question: Does your employer do vehicle searches, either random or planned?
If they've never done a vehicle search, then you probably don't need to worry about anything. Just lock it in the glove box or some sort of safe/device that is bolted to the frame of your vehicle. And don't tell a soul that you work with that you have it. It WILL get out.

By making sure that it is locked in your vehicle, your CHL and the extra safety measures could at least give you better points for saving your job if it is ever discovered.
If you feel the parking lot is guarded enough and you're sure they'll never search you, just put it in some sort of ratty looking bag and leave it in the trunk. You could even put some workout clothes on top of it in a gym bag.
Barres gave me a link for a Life Jacket safe that can be bolted to a vehicle, or just used as a traveling "lock box."
I, personally, ordered one with the intent of bolting it to my vehicle, but I would see where you could just put your handgun in a life jacket, then hide it amongst gym clothes.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:46 am
by kauboy
Thanks for the suggestions Venus, but yes we do have random vehicle searches due to the type of company we are.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:01 pm
by nitrogen
Venus Pax wrote:I really see your predicament.
Here's a question: Does your employer do vehicle searches, either random or planned?
If they've never done a vehicle search, then you probably don't need to worry about anything. Just lock it in the glove box or some sort of safe/device that is bolted to the frame of your vehicle. And don't tell a soul that you work with that you have it. It WILL get out.

By making sure that it is locked in your vehicle, your CHL and the extra safety measures could at least give you better points for saving your job if it is ever discovered.
If you feel the parking lot is guarded enough and you're sure they'll never search you, just put it in some sort of ratty looking bag and leave it in the trunk. You could even put some workout clothes on top of it in a gym bag.
Barres gave me a link for a Life Jacket safe that can be bolted to a vehicle, or just used as a traveling "lock box."
I, personally, ordered one with the intent of bolting it to my vehicle, but I would see where you could just put your handgun in a life jacket, then hide it amongst gym clothes.
I'm about to give away a secret. Heh.
I've got a "center of mass" lockbox locked behind the lining of my work briefcase. My briefcase has interior supports that I can lock the cable around, so it makes it difficult to be stolen.

Some pictures:



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If someone was to open my case, they might tell something was hidden, but normally, it doesn't completely open like this.

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Hrm. That looks suspicious, but what is it!

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well I can't get it out! it's locked to this support strut!

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I've got my Bersa .380 and an extra mag locked in here.

In spirit, i'm breaking my companies "no weapons" policy, but with this setup, nobody's going to accidentally get their hands on it, or see it, unless they go ripping through my stuff. Even if they do, thye'll have to pry the box open to see whats inside.

It's how I keep a weapon nearby in case I need it. Granted, it's not immidately available, but it's better than sitting, cowering in terror if something should go down.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:32 pm
by sparx
nitrogen wrote:Granted, it's not immidately available, but it's better than sitting, cowering in terror if something should go down.
Good choice IMHO (and good setup, too!). Your secret is safe with me!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:10 pm
by barres
kauboy wrote:Thanks for the suggestions Venus, but yes we do have random vehicle searches due to the type of company we are.
What about parking on a public street a block away? IE: don't park in their parking lot. Yes, it makes you more vulnerable getting to anf from your vehicle, but you could be armed once you got to the vehicle. Also, make sure you look the policy over carefully. TDCJ's policy is that employees or visitors with CHL's can carry into the parking lot, but must secure their weapons in their vehicle. Texas Administrative Code Rule 151.21 The random searches probably make this a long shot, but they might not be looking for weapons. TDCJ just occassionally sends an officer (correctional not LE) to look for unlocked vehicles. They don't otherwise search them.

Not knowing exactly where you work or for whom, we probably can't be of much more help. Good luck finding a way to stay safe!

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:25 pm
by kauboy
Again thanks for the suggestions, but no dice on the parking a block away. Like I said before, we are surrounded by 10 foot walls. There are two gaurded entrances and I would raise a great deal of suspicion if I were to stroll on up to the gate and ask to be let in.

The random searches actually occur at the gates, as you enter the facility. But the likleyhood that they would search my laptop bag are probably pretty slim ;-) I personally don't have the cojones to try it and definitely can't lose my job because I blatently disregarded company policy. And it does specifically say that even CHL carriers may not "store weapons in vehicles on company premesis".

I guess I will have to rely on the sixty year old security gaurd with the shotgun to protect me :roll:

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:11 pm
by ElGato
Whoa! Kauboy rein-em in, some of those 60 year old youngsters might shoot just as good as grown-up's. :smilelol5:

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:51 pm
by Venus Pax
We had an incident a number of years back at the school, and both of our officers were replaced for the remainder of the school year. (This happened to let the students cool down after witnessing an arrest of a classmate.)
Anyway, the temporary replacements were 60 or 70 year-old, overweight men with thick, coke-bottle glasses. I remember one of my colleagues looking over at me with a grin and saying, "Hm. I feel safe."

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:41 am
by Rich
More and more 30.06 signs are being put up, yet few if any of these businesses have any security on the premises.

"The fundamental reason why workplace killing sprees are allowed to progress unchecked is that there is only one gun present, that of the nutcase doing the shooting."

- survivor of the Luby's shooting

Fortunately, my office has not erected a sign…yet!

Rich