Re: Called a venue to find if they were 51% before going...
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:41 pm
IMHO, it would be until the ownership changes. It is possible that it could change before then, but not very likely.
This is a gray area for me, personally it hasn't happened so I haven't had to worry about it.Don't you have a reasonable expectation that ownership, management, and policies can all change with time?
I usually view notification as valid for THAT visit only. The next time I visit, everything is reset (unless there is some sort of contract that specifies an amount of time for the notification).
What do you guys think? I've never seen anything in the statutes. Is this one of those gray areas left for juries to decide based on what they deem to be "reasonable"?
In this particular case I personally would not have considered it notice. He didn't say not to bring a gun, he said they post the sign because they don't want them there. So since the sign isn't actually even there (the purpose of which he said was because they didn't want guns), I would assume that the conversation he had on the phone was clearly either someone who didn't know what they were talking about or the owners changed there stance.
Since I haven't seen anything that lays out how long oral notice is good for, I tend to just use common sense. I am not one who believes oral notice is good for eternity, but I also don't think that I can walk into a place... be given oral notice...leave... then turn right around and come back in and expect oral notice again.
One question I have always had with oral notice is how does someone prove or disprove that oral notice was given? At least with 30.06 there would be actual physical evidence that proper notice was given.