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Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:05 pm
by seamusTX
Keith B wrote:Only if they are posted with a 30.06, otherwise you can legally carry there.
Or part of a university system.
I've said this before: UTMB has its own police force. They consider the hospital off-limits for CHL holders.
Now, I know police officers are not lawyers or prosecutors, but you know what they say about the ride.
- Jim
Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:51 pm
by GOP
Keith B wrote:GOP wrote:chabouk wrote:boomerang wrote:GOP wrote:Now imagine if that was your vehicle and your gun?
It would have been completely avoidable by not making me disarm.
I'm sure this will be a talking point in the 2011 Legislative session.
I agree. I won't go into a bar, period.
But, I do have to go into hospitals and nursing homes, and therefore I must disarm.
Only if they are posted with a 30.06, otherwise you can legally carry there.
PC §46.035.
UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event;
(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.
I've never seen a hospital or nursing home that did not have a posted sign disallowing a handgun.
Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:05 pm
by timdsmith72
Keep reading. This was added some time later:
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor
was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:07 pm
by Keith B
GOP wrote:Keith B wrote:
Only if they are posted with a 30.06, otherwise you can legally carry there.
PC §46.035.
UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event;
(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.
I've never seen a hospital or nursing home that did not have a posted sign disallowing a handgun.
Read on down to (i) where it states they have to be posted 30.06.
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
And while some hospitals or nursing homes do post the proper signage, there are those that don't.
Edit: Tim beat me to it.
Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:08 pm
by timdsmith72
Sorry Keith.

Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:09 pm
by Keith B
timdsmith72 wrote:Sorry Keith.

You just must have had a better typing teacher than me and are faster.

Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:06 pm
by Marty Graw
And now you know the rest of the story.
Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 6:09 pm
by SecedeTX
I can't carry at work at all. I do keep my gun holstered in a Fobus paddle holster in the car. I do not have to unbuckle anything to put it on or off. I like it because it keeps the trigger covered at all times, and I don't have to holster/unholster while in the car.
I did have a custom compartment built into the center console to store the firearm tho. If someone breaks into the car, I doubt that they would find it. Talk to your local high end custom car audio shop, they can do wonders! I drive a sports car, and people in my car club can't tell that I have a modified storage area.
Car audio guys can be your friend.
Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:22 pm
by stevie_d_64
Never in all the years I have carried, have I had much concern about the accessability of a firearm left in a vehicle, if it is contained in a lock box, or one of the "Center of Mass" boxes...
I have bought three, and have the upmost confidence in them to deter the average smash and grabber thief...
If the vehicle is completely pinched, then that gun is gone as far as I am concerned, just make sure you have the information documented somewhere and make sure you tell the investigator that you had a firearm locked up inside the vehicle...Sure makes it easier...Not less painful, but easier...
Re: When you can't carry at work...
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:54 am
by Fawkes
Here is a solution to this dilemma - Blade-Tech holster with Tek-Lok, and a workbench fabricated sheet metal box with hasp/pad lock mounted under the front seat. With the box painted black, it appears to be part of the OBD system.