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Re: packing in class
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:03 pm
by lrb111
Every time we've been down there they make an announcement after the shooting classifier. Whoever needs to re-conceal their shooter goes to one side of the range to reload and reholster.
It's never been the slightest problem, that I remember.
Re: packing in class
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:05 pm
by MoJo
The answer is a qualified YES if you have a CHL. According to the instructor I spoke with they had some problems in the past with students taking their guns out in class or on break to show them off.

He said that if everyone plays by the rules you can have your gun with you there will be an announcement to that effect made the first day. In other words, keep your pea pickin' paws off of your pistol.

Re: packing in class
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:11 pm
by Bill
Thanks for the heads up, BTW I never pull mine out to show it off, come on we all have seen most everything out there anyway
Re: packing in class
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:48 pm
by bkj
A peace officer may disarm a CHL license holder if he reasonably believes it is necessary for the protection of the officer, the holder, or any other individual
Re: packing in class
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:03 pm
by KFP
bkj wrote: ...reasonably believes it is necessary...
Correct.
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:13 am
by sjfcontrol
KFP wrote:bkj wrote: ...reasonably believes it is necessary...
Correct.
Exactly. It would be tough for a "peace officer" to reasonably claim that there was any safety issues for a CHL Instructors class where everybody is there voluntarily, are presumably familiar with the handling of firearms, and no crime or criminal investigation is in process.
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:34 pm
by JAguirre
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:45 pm
by bkj
He is in a room full of people does not know. And he has no idea of how well you handle a firearm.
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:56 pm
by KFP
bkj wrote:He is in a room full of people does not know. And he has no idea of how well you handle a firearm.
Will you require renewal students to disarm?
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:02 pm
by MoJo
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:12 pm
by sjfcontrol
Using that "logic", every officer should always disarm every CHL he comes across.
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:24 pm
by MoJo
sjfcontrol wrote:
Using that "logic", every officer should always disarm every CHL he comes across.
Since the OP was "packing in class" I was thinking along the lines of being a DPS instructor in a room full or yahoos I don't know and one of them pulls a gun out. If I were the instructor I would 1. disarm him 2. arrest him 3. transport him to jail 4. bye bye CHL.
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:50 pm
by KFP
MoJo wrote:Since the OP was "packing in class" I was thinking along the lines of being a DPS instructor in a room full or yahoos I don't know and one of them pulls a gun out. If I were the instructor I would 1. disarm him 2. arrest him 3. transport him to jail 4. bye bye CHL.
I do not agree with attempting to restrict legal concealed carry.
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:17 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Let me see . . . have I ever heard of a CHL shooting the mirror in his bedroom? . . . Ah, no I haven't. Do I remember fellow officers shooting the mirror in the squad room while practicing their quick draw? . . . As a matter of fact I do, more than one. Do I recall a fellow officer shooting his briefcase sitting on the front seat of his car? Ah . . . yes I do! Do I recall an officer having an AD when he reholstered with his finger on the trigger at dept. qualifications? As a matter of fact, yes I do. Do I remember COPS drawing their revolvers and automatics at dept. qualifications only to find green "leather corrosion" on the muzzle. Again, yes I do! Do I remember any officer . . . well, you get the idea.
If anyone thinks COPS are master pistoleros, you haven't been around many COPS. There is no more reason to distrust a room full of CHL instructors than there is to distrust a room full of COPS. In fact, if the COPS aren't firearms instructors, there's a lot more reason to fear them than the CHL instructors. Except for a relatively few officers, COPS can't shoot and their gun handling skills are deplorable. Ask any experienced shooter who is a COP and they will agree. We used to actively recruit COPS to shoot our IDPA matches and we gave up because they didn't want to be "shown up by civilians." The COPS who do shoot with us just shake their heads.
A friend who spend 28 years with Houston PD said it best; if you see a COP unsnapping his holster HIT THE DIRT! This came from a guy with a lot of gun fighting experience.
Chas.
Edited to add: This is tongue-in-cheek.
Re: packing in class
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:06 pm
by Bill
Especially the old timers, most of the guys I am involved with have been on the force 20 plus years, they only shoot to re-qualify