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Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:07 pm
by ELB
austinrealtor wrote: I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect the guy could ultimately lose his job over this stance. Some anti group is going to try to have him removed from office ....
From what I am reading on other websites, Wisconsin has been moving the right direction for some time now, so I think he will be OK. It's not like one of Chicago's DAs suddenly piped up with this (altho that would be hysterical --- until the guy ended up floating in the harbor).
I have not personally verified the following, but here is what I understand from reading other forum: WI is an open carry state, but a few LEs arrested people for Disorderly Conduct in the past. The previous Repub AG issued an opionion/order/whatever AGs issue, that essentially said, "Stop it." There was a prosecution of a barkeeper who carried a gun with him when he took his receipts to the bank -- this is apparently what prompted this DA to run (he thought it was stupid, and note the example in his letter is about a barkeeper). The legislature twice passed bipartisan concealed carry (shall issue, I think) laws, which were vetoed by the Dem Governor. His vetoes were sustained by one or two votes after some armtwisting. So the thinking is, once he is out at the end of this year, hopefully his replacement will not veto, or at least there will be enough legislators with backbone to override any vetoes.
Anyway, I think this guy will be OK. At least famous.

Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:16 pm
by Texgun
God bless Gerald R. Fox!
Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:40 pm
by ClarkLZeuss
Only by the strictest adherence to firearm safety rules and common sense will we show that the elitists who seek to disarm all of us are wrong
This, I think, is a healthy reminder and a challenge to all of us.
OTOH, I don't think many of these "elitists" can or will be convinced of anything. So rather, I would say that the people we need to convince are the decent, but misguided, voters who mistakenly put these elitists in office.
Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:55 pm
by rob845
Good! more changes are going to come across the nation...hopefully all are for the best
Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:13 pm
by ELB
More...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/97680129.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Carrying a concealed weapon is now legal in Wisconsin - at least in one county of the state.
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The high court's ruling in McDonald vs. Chicago, "immediately renders some of Wisconsin's current laws unconstitutional," Fox said in a news release. Therefore, he said, his office won't take any cases police might refer that are solely about violations of concealed carry, uncased or loaded weapons in vehicles, guns in public buildings or where alcohol is sold or served. Nor will Fox prosecute the possession of switchblade and other types of easy-opening knives.
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Wisconsin and Illinois are the only two states that do not issued concealed carry permits.
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His announcement wasn't going over too well with some law enforcement officials in Jackson County.
Black River Falls Police Chief Don Gilberg said he didn't think Fox's position was very well thought out, and not good public policy.
"When something's dumb, it's just dumb," Gilberg said.
Gilberg said his department will continue to issue citations under city ordinances and seize weapons from people who may think that they can now carry concealed weapons in Black River Falls with impunity.
Gilberg said he, too, applauded the decision in McDonald vs. Chicago, but didn't believe its intent was to "allow a Wild West atmosphere in our cities and towns."
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Fox's policy falls within his discretion as the elected district attorney, said a spokesman for state Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen, who said the office had no comment about Fox's position.
Notably absent from Fox's announcement was any mention of the law that makes it a felony to possess a gun within 1,000 feet of a school.
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Much more at the link. Go RTWT.
Also:
http://host.madison.com/news/state-and- ... 91c0d.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A northwestern Wisconsin prosecutor says he won't prosecute a range of weapon violations after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled this week Americans have a right to own a gun for self-defense.
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Peter Hamm is a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. He says "WAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!"
Ok, go to the link if you really want to know what Hamm said. I was not feeling particularly charitable after reading his remarks and those of the police chief in Black River Falls.
Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:23 pm
by Fangs
Peter Hamm is a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. He says Fox is inviting crime into Jackson County and if he won't enforce the state's laws he should be removed from office.
I think Supreme Court Justices who can't read should be removed from office.
"Right to keep and bear arms... Shall not be infringed"

Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:19 pm
by denwego
Gilberg said his department will continue to issue citations under city ordinances and seize weapons from people who may think that they can now carry concealed weapons in Black River Falls with impunity.
So, a group of cops is going to start seizing property from people under no authority of law and with no judicial backing... hmm. I suppose it's best that I'm not in that county, after all, because I wouldn't be too forgiving to an armed gang just stealing property because they think they can.
Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:43 am
by TXlaw1
denwego wrote:Gilberg said his department will continue to issue citations under city ordinances and seize weapons from people who may think that they can now carry concealed weapons in Black River Falls with impunity.
So, a group of cops is going to start seizing property from people under no authority of law and with no judicial backing... hmm. I suppose it's best that I'm not in that county, after all, because I wouldn't be too forgiving to an armed gang just stealing property because they think they can.
Seems their understanding of law is - I've got the badge and I've got my gun so give me yours! What a perversion of the law. Cops turning into thugs. Who is going to stop them and others with a similar attitude?

Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:18 pm
by CollinLeon
Interesting that a Yankee would be more right in something than Texas currently is...
"What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED is so hard to understand?"
Re: Wisconsin DA Says Gun Laws Unconstitutional
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:32 pm
by Texas Dan Mosby
That is a truly inspiring document, especially coming from a DA's office.
I'm gonna write that gentlemen a note of support, and thank him for upholding our constitution.
