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There is a big difference between some organizations rule and a law. The question I ask is if my life is more important than risking being fired or kicked out. I have come to the realization that I can get a new client but not a new life. Well, here on earth anyway.

txinvestigator wrote:What do you do that you believe the chance of the police questioning you is more than miniscule?

This is college, I walk around campus at 3AM regularly heading to and from different places. They'll stop you if you're not running in the normal attire. On occasion I become involved in events that put the police on edge whether I like it or not, take the Texas Tech - A&M game, last year our campus was vandalized, this year they were all over the place checking ID and patting down different people. Just one example, it just happens.

No, the moral of the story is don't get so drunk that you become stupid.

If you intend to carry a knife for self-defense, I have a few questions for you;

Is the knife a deadly weapon?

If you pull out the knife and threaten someone with it, what could you be charged with? What possible legal defenses might you have for pulling it out?

Would cutting or stabbing a person with a knife always be deadly force? Do you know what deadly force is?

Under what conditions are you legally justified in using deadly force?

Do you know what happens if you take a knife to a gun fight?

Maybe so but that doesn't change why he got away, who's to say that he can't be in that situation if he just had a beer?

Um yeah a knife is a deadly weapon.

You would be charged the same as you would with a pistol. What does that matter, I won't be waving a knife around for no good reason or threatening people because it makes me feel like a man...

Its a deadly force, does it always kill? No, but neither does a pistol.

When I'm in fear for my life.

If I feel that its me or him then its a better position than my bare hands vs a firearm if the person happens to have one. Either way if it ends favorably I'm not going to jail for carrying in school or with a "detectable" amount of alcohol, or whatever the special condition happens to be and losing my right to carry all together.

shootthesheet wrote:There is a big difference between some organizations rule and a law. The question I ask is if my life is more important than risking being fired or kicked out. I have come to the realization that I can get a new client but not a new life. Well, here on earth anyway.

The problem here is it isn't the organizations rule, you can't carry in school buildings. Its a third degree felony I believe, and a felony on your record puts a nice ding on how you go about your life. Thats why I'd like to collect other carry suggestions.

OC spray and certain blades can be taken, but I would recommend that you cease heavy drinking if you're concerned for your safety and those around you.
Anything more than a glass/can or two of an alcoholic beverage impairs one's judgement. If you were to use any weapon against someone while under the influence, it could be a problem that would follow you the rest of your life. What some people consider to be threatening behavior while they're impaired may be something they shrug off while sober.
Even if you aren't the "fighting" type, alcohol is a depressant that slows your reflexes and impairs your motor movements. No self-defense tool will be of much use to you if you can't use it properly.

Don't take this as a lecture. A beer or two is fine, but going out drinking just doesn't mesh with an alert, prepared posture.

(And as Longtooth might say, "That's my .02. Some might think its worth half that.")

Longtooth thinks the post is great. Good job young lady.

Venus Pax wrote:OC spray and certain blades can be taken, but I would recommend that you cease heavy drinking if you're concerned for your safety and those around you.
Anything more than a glass/can or two of an alcoholic beverage impairs one's judgement. If you were to use any weapon against someone while under the influence, it could be a problem that would follow you the rest of your life. What some people consider to be threatening behavior while they're impaired may be something they shrug off while sober.
Even if you aren't the "fighting" type, alcohol is a depressant that slows your reflexes and impairs your motor movements. No self-defense tool will be of much use to you if you can't use it properly.

Don't take this as a lecture. A beer or two is fine, but going out drinking just doesn't mesh with an alert, prepared posture.

(And as Longtooth might say, "That's my .02. Some might think its worth half that.")

Why does everyone take this to mean that I'm some kind of alcoholic who can't break the habit? My primary concern is school, I might have something to drink once a month and might get drunk once every few months. But I'm in school for one reason or another about 25 days a month. As I was to understand its not ok to carry with one or two beers as they would be a detectable amount of alcohol, and unless people are advocating me carrying in that condition (which I wouldn't) then the solution is to carry something that is legal as to stay out of trouble in the first place.

Will938 wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:What do you do that you believe the chance of the police questioning you is more than miniscule?

This is college, I walk around campus at 3AM regularly heading to and from different places. They'll stop you if you're not running in the normal attire. On occasion I become involved in events that put the police on edge whether I like it or not, take the Texas Tech - A&M game, last year our campus was vandalized, this year they were all over the place checking ID and patting down different people. Just one example, it just happens.

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I just don't buy it. 3am? Doing what? I think that your youthful exuberance is getting the best of you.

txinvestigator wrote: I just don't buy it. 3am? Doing what? I think that your youthful exuberance is getting the best of you.

C'mon its college. By monday I've gotta read almost 500 pages only available online at the school. Since I'll be going to class, a football game, and doing homework during the day I'm sure that sunday night I'll be leaving about 2AM crosseyed.

Plus I'm blessed with Suddenlink internet, it works about 12 random hours out of the day. So I'll often have to run to school to finish reading whatever online, and its usually very late.

Girls to chase, you know.

Something for you to consider about the Fox 5.3 self defense spray is that it may help you keep your distance from a threat. A knife is certainly a respectable weapon, but if you are using it in close, odds are you are going to get cut. Maybe fatally.

That Fox 5.2 is not Mace or CS, it makes people stop what ever they thought they were going to do, and concentrate on breathing and crying. Very few can carry on through the kind of pain it inflicts.

What exactly does Fox5.2(or 5.3, which ever it was) do exactly to make them have trouble breathing?

Is it known to be lethal or have permanent affects in certain cases? I know OC has caused a few deaths.

Will938 wrote:What exactly does Fox5.2(or 5.3, which ever it was) do exactly to make them have trouble breathing?

Is it known to be lethal or have permanent affects in certain cases? I know OC has caused a few deaths.

I haven't heard of any deaths related to OC, so i can't comment there.

The numbers are slang for the heat units. Peppers are graded by heat units on the Scoville Heat scale. There ar any number of references, here's one. http://www.victoryseeds.com/information/scoville.html

If you have ever messed with jalapeno's and touched your eye area, then you know why your eyes water and burn. If you touch other sensitive areas they will burn also. Jalapenos are about 5000 Scoville Units.

Fox spray is over 5 million Scoville.
The sinuses instantly dump into the nasal passages and the mucous membranes will produce fluid on a scale described as the same feeling as drowning.

The eyes slam shut with immediate swelling, and tears. The skin areas get really hot and have a burning.. Wipeing makes it worse. Water just spreads the effect.

It's bad news, and not to be taken lightly as a defensive force. The good news is that you can get a can for about the same price as box of .38s.

There are a couple of folks on here that are certified OC instructors. If you have more specific questions.

If you pull out the knife and threaten someone with it, what could you be charged with? What possible legal defenses might you have for pulling it out?

If you're going to use a knife for SD, better the assailant isn't aware of it until he is bleeding heavily.

I have a night class and I am a woman. I go to a small community college and I constantly worry about things like this.

What in the world is "OC"..... I am soo lost.

OC is the initials for the full proper name of pepper spray.
OC = Pepper Spray.
Most of us that use it carry Fox brand name.