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Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:15 pm
by Crossfire
Apparently, they ARE retained. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to give renewals a pass on prints if, as DPS says, they have "classifiable prints on file".
And, you gotta understand that, anything that has been electronically submitted to anywhere is still on file somewhere in some database on some server in the interweb.
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:15 pm
by USA1
WildBill wrote:USA1 wrote:Ok, I'm not clear on something. Are the fingerprints used for the initial ID verification or to keep on record for future ID verification or even matching prints taken from a crime. scene?
Many people have no previous prints on file at the time of applying for a CHL.
They are not supposed to be used for matching crime scenes. That is why they are supposed to be destroyed.
I somehow get the feeling they are stored in some secret database somewhere
...not all conspiracies are theories.

Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:38 pm
by AlexKilpatrick
There are a lot of different definitions of "retained" I know military fingerprints are kept in a database at the FBI, but are never searched expect in very, very special circumstances. Teacher fingerprints are deleted. To a certain extent, it is in the FBI's best interest to try to keep irrelevant records (eg good guys) out of their database. The more records you have, the more likely you will have a false positive (or negative). If I recall correctly, the FBI actually has about 12 different databases that they search under different guideline.
I suspect the CHL records are deleted by the FBI after the search, but are kept in a separate database by DHS for resubmittal on a renewal.
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:03 pm
by Kythas
Speaking of the electronic finger print places, where does one go to find a place that does them?
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:11 pm
by WildBill
Kythas wrote:Speaking of the electronic finger print places, where does one go to find a place that does them?
http://www.l1enrollment.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:11 pm
by AlexKilpatrick
Kythas wrote:Speaking of the electronic finger print places, where does one go to find a place that does them?
You have to schedule through L-1's site.
http://www.l1enrollment.com/state/?st=tx
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:27 pm
by Spiderman15
O.K. Fella's Got the call this morning and the fingerprints were all ready rejected. Only took three day's I was impressed. Going to get them redone this Thursday drinking plenty of water and using Cornhusker's lotion. Any more suggestion's? Wish me luck.
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:31 pm
by WildBill
Spiderman15 wrote:O.K. Fella's Got the call this morning and the fingerprints were all ready rejected. Only took three day's I was impressed. Going to get them redone this Thursday drinking plenty of water and using Cornhusker's lotion. Any more suggestion's? Wish me luck.
Good Luck! I would tell you to cross your fingers, but that would probably make it worse.

Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:34 pm
by USA1
WildBill wrote:Spiderman15 wrote:O.K. Fella's Got the call this morning and the fingerprints were all ready rejected. Only took three day's I was impressed. Going to get them redone this Thursday drinking plenty of water and using Cornhusker's lotion. Any more suggestion's? Wish me luck.
I would tell you to cross your fingers, but that would probably make it worse.


Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:36 pm
by AlexKilpatrick
Spiderman15 wrote:O.K. Fella's Got the call this morning and the fingerprints were all ready rejected. Only took three day's I was impressed. Going to get them redone this Thursday drinking plenty of water and using Cornhusker's lotion. Any more suggestion's? Wish me luck.
Tell them that you have tough fingerprints and they need to take their time. I got mine done today and the lady really rushed through it, overriding the system when it said the fingerprints weren't good quality. For most people, a couple of bad fingerprints won't make any difference, but you will want to make sure they spend the time trying to get as good of a capture as possible. Watch the screen, and if the image is muddled, you should ask them to capture again.
Also, relax your hands and let them do the work. Just go limp; don't try to help them with your fingers.
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:10 pm
by Kythas
WildBill wrote:Kythas wrote:Speaking of the electronic finger print places, where does one go to find a place that does them?
http://www.l1enrollment.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks!
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:35 am
by Spiderman15
UPDATE,
Went back yesterday evening for a retry on my fingerprint's. Told the lady I thought it was gonna work this time, because some bud's told me a couple trick's to try. Her comment was I don't know what they told you to try but there is no way anything could change in one week. Since Monday I have used bout a half bottle of cornhuskers lotion and drank enough water and gatoraide to float a boat. So we do the print's and she takes the picture and then just stops and say's O.K. What were the tricks cause I have never seen prints change that quick. I want to thank you fellas for your suggestion's and helping me out. Now it it is off to the waiting room.
Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:40 am
by WildBill
Good Deal!

Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:42 pm
by USA1
Spiderman15 wrote: I want to thank you fellas for your suggestion's and helping me out.
We aim to please.

Re: Fingerprints
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:08 am
by gddb856
Any one know where i can find the Agency/ORI Number for Fingerprinting? I called L1 but they said I need to get the information from DPS.
I called DPS but the waiting was too long.
I submitted a paper fingerprinting and would like to use the FAST by L1 instead of any issue.
Thanks