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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:15 pm
by Greybeard
Question: Why don't they allow FMJ ?

Various reasons by various ranges, but the most common (and often unknown) is that rifle-launched FMJs that hit short of the target on outdoor ranges can "skip the berm". Not a good thing unless you own lots of unoccupied land down range. And most ranges can not afford that.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:20 am
by da.suxor
age_ranger wrote:Shot my AR at their 25yd indoor range today. Not a bad setup but only 2 rifle bays.
Rifle @ 25 yards? Why?

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:50 am
by kauboy
I'm not sure how big the largest room in your house is, but mine is nowhere near 25yds. Sounds like a fine distance if your home defense gun is an AR. That is 75ft, BTW, so its not like its arms length or anything :mrgreen:

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:38 am
by age_ranger
da.suxor wrote:
age_ranger wrote:Shot my AR at their 25yd indoor range today. Not a bad setup but only 2 rifle bays.
Rifle @ 25 yards? Why?
Basically, I just built this AR and wanted to function check it and run a few ammo types through it. Typically, I sight in my rifles at 50 or 100 yds. Even hunting, I rarely make a shot over 100yds. Still, shooting indoors in low light was a BLAST!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:49 pm
by Greybeard
Quote "Rifle @ 25 yards? Why?"

Hey, it can beat not shooting at all if 100 yards or better is not handy outdoors ...

And, coincidently, a 25 yard zero with many rifles whose sights (or especially) scope recticles are a couple of inches above the bore, makes 'em pretty close to dead-on at 200 to 250 yards.

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:14 pm
by KBCraig
Terrell isn't exactly "D/FW" (but it's getting closer all the time). But if you are up for the drive, they do allow FMJ. They have John C. Garand matches and NRA Foreign Military Bolt-action Rifle matches.

http://www.tr-pc.com/

Kevin

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:20 pm
by txinvestigator
Greybeard wrote:Quote "Rifle @ 25 yards? Why?"

Hey, it can beat not shooting at all if 100 yards or better is not handy outdoors ...

And, coincidently, a 25 yard zero with many rifles whose sights (or especially) scope recticles are a couple of inches above the bore, makes 'em pretty close to dead-on at 200 to 250 yards.
yep

The trajectory of a .223 will give you a 25/300 battle zero. That means that you zero at 25 yards and you will be on zero again at 300 yards. At 100 yards you will shoot about 6 inches high with this zero. So you aim about 6 inches low.

You can also do a 50/250 zero. It gives you a flatter trajectory.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:09 pm
by nitrogen
nitrogen wrote:
age_ranger wrote:Bullet Trap in Plano, Tx. will allow any ammo except tracers and metal core (armor piercing) ammo. Shot my AR at their 25yd indoor range today. Not a bad setup but only 2 rifle bays.
Really. They told me "no FMJ" last time I was there :roll:
I went back today and they indeed allowed me to shoot FMJ.

Re: D/FW rifle range that allows FMJ?

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:45 pm
by nitrogen
sf1058 wrote:
nitrogen wrote:Anyone know of a rifle range in the D/FW area that doesn't ban FMJ?

For some reason, it seems every range I know about doesn't allow FMJ, and I'm a cheap person.
Gibson's Outpost in Mesquite on Lawson Road is FMJ friendly. It's $10.83 per day with a $6.00 annual membership fee.
Finally checked these folks out. Definitely an interesting family that seems to run it, but if you follow their rules, you'll do fine. I'll more than put up with some of the eccentricities since they allow me to shoot the dreaded FMJ.