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Andy, seems to me you need to quit going to Alp]D]D]D]D] those dumpy ranges.

What concerns me is the timing of this thread.

You see, Andy & I went shooting last Friday...

Pawpaw wrote:What concerns me is the timing of this thread.

You see, Andy & I went shooting last Friday...

I feel that most people don't mean to be unsafe, they just are unsafe. That being said, most shooters just need proper instruction and training but they must have a safe attitude.

Thanks for the post, as someone said I will be borrowing some of these quotes.

Spray-painted jeans, 4-inch heels and a top which reveals a tattoo reading "I do it for $$$" is totally appropriate fashion for a shooting lesson.

Please tell me this was a female and not some guy.

Even scarier.

Wow! So glad I get to use my "backyard". We do make the drive to Red's now and then, but usually during the week (mornings) when there are not many shooters.

"If you believe there is a round in the chamber, but only get a disappointing 'click' when you pull the trigger, the absolute correct way to check the situation is to point the muzzle at your head so that you can get a good look down the barrel. Note that you may have to shift your position a bit to secure the best lighting possible. Range Officers--always needing to do something to justify their employment--tend to overreact when you perform this maneuver, but all the other shooters on the line will respect your obvious expertise in knowing how to rapidly diagnose the no-bang situation."

AndyC wrote: A little Bryco, Jennings or Jimenez pistol is a great choice with which to teach your girlfriend how to shoot accurately at 15 yards plus. Bonus points if it's missing the extractor - who needs it?

Funny you should mention this. Last time I went to visit my dad we went through his collection and a Bryco-Jennings .380 turned up. I had never heard of these before and still don't know much about them.

Here is one to add............A guy in the next lane from me draws and fires from his holster(clear violation of the rules posted not 5 feet from him). He says "its OK I am a law enforcement officer". The ranger officer begged to differ. A discussion began. The law enforcement officer received a prompt refund and exited the premises

It is ok to bumpfire your ak, 4 feet to the left of a guy who is zeroing a precision rifle . He wont mind at all.

The whole "lets give my wife or girlfriend an air weight .357 or .500. It will be great fun when she shoots one shot then drops it on the floor. Let's put it on Youtube!"

.45 is a 'real' gun. 9mm and .38 are for wusses.

No need to clean up after I am done shooting. Some one else will do for me. Just like my mommy at home.

If you go to an outdoor rifle range and fail to bring targets, feel free to shoot the freshly painted steel targets. The range must put the steel targets up for customers to shoot ''cause them steel targets is expensive and nobody could afford their own''.

Jackwagons that shoot other peoples targets are idiots.

It's O.K. to teach your woman, friend, or buddy how to put a mag in your rifle and work the bolt while everyone else is hanging targets on a COLD range.

It's O.K. to have your kid ahead of the firing line trying to catch the brass ejecting out of your A.R. on a HOT range with other people shooting.

Need to see where your shots are hitting on your target? Just walk over and use my spotting scope, even though I have no clue who you are, and then mumble "I thought that was the range scope".

JJVP wrote:

It's perfectly acceptable to offer your girlfriend's "favors" in exchange for more ammunition once you've shot your lone box of 25.

Man what kind of gun ranges you go to. I've never had that happen to me.

Well, I have plenty of ammo to trade, but on the flip side I'm not sure I'd want any favors from a person that willing to share

Yeouch. I'm glad that I haven't frequented ranges like that as much.

I mostly shoot at an indoor range that either only allows CHL'ers, Mil or LEO to shoot at it, - or - in the Desert. I've yet to see anyone do anything dumb at the Indoor range and I feel that the fact that the vast majority of the folks there are very serious about their firearms usage has a lot do with it. You can draw from the holster, go prone, to a knee, rapid fire, etc - there are virtually no rules there that restrict practical training. The desert... well, thats's different. The spot I frequent has been used by shooters for years and years. I've heard that it's either public land, or private land that someone allows folks to use. Either way, it's just an unregulated spot that folks can use whenever, with whatever, pretty much however they want (as long as it's legal!). It's great to have such a place at your disposal, as there are no limitations on what you are allowed to do. On the other hand, it isn't great because folks just go out there and shoot old washers/dryers, TV's, glass bottles... whatever, and they just leave it there to rot. The ground is litterally covered in spent shells of every type (shotgun, pistol, rimfire, rifle) and I'm sure that the berms are more lead than dirt now!

I've seen folks do some dumb things out there:

- What I assume was a father and son were shooting rimfire on one side of the range, and the father allows his son to climb to the top of the berm and shoot off of it into the distance. My buddy had to go over and request that he stop doing that, to which they complied. It seemed like the father was quite upset at the son, but it's kind of amazing that the father "didn't notice" he was doing that.

-Three younger guys pulled up, pulled out shotguns and literally aimed them across the desert (NOT Into the berm) and just started blasting away. No, there were no targets there either. They then got back into their car and drove away.

- The Sheriff's department decided that riding up on a group of shooters (who were actually sending lead down range at the time) from three different sides on ATV's would be a great idea. I was one of those guys, and it scared the living heck out of me. It's not like they had marked ATV's that were easy to discern as LEO "vehicles". Sneaking up on someone shooting or using power tools = stupid idea. Not sure what they were thinking. They just wanted to make sure we weren't doing anything dumb like drinking and then they left.

- Drinking while shooting. I've seen this done by a father while shooting with his kids. He kindly offered me a Tecate and I declined.

Generally, the place isn't bad. I try to go when I know other folks won't be out there, as part of the reason I go there is to shoot where I won't be bothered (by either range safety rules or other shooters) so I can practice un-hindered. It doesn't get crowded, but you'll see a few folks there on the weekends. The wife and I, - or any buddies that go out there with me - make it a point to clean up what we took out. There are to sides to the "range" seperated by a road, and I always go to the unoccupied side. I do this for safety, as I don't know the random joe that might pull up next to me and thus I don't want to put my life in their hands if you understand what I mean. How am I supposed to know if the guy isn't one of the loons that drinks while shooting or likes to flag everyone? I don't so I just try to avoid it when I can. That's the mentality I have - I'm not trying to be anti-social or rude, but I would hope that folks would understand why I'm motivated to leave the range with the same amount of holes in me than I arrived with. I just consider it a range courtesy that if you arrive at the range, and one side is occupied, that perhaps you should use the other side (at least out at this place). I just feel safer with more dirt and space between me and a shooter I don't know.

At any rate, It's definitely "interesting" to see the dumb things that other shooters do. Now, I'm FAR from some Firearms prodigy who knows everything, and I'm certainly not some delta operator, nor do I play one on TV, BUT I don't automatically think they are horrible human beings if I see them doing something stupid, as some folks are just ignorant ( and I mean this in the strictest sense of the word, not in a derogatory manner) to common sense, courtesy or practical safety. They might just need someone to tell them once so that they can learn from it. But if they can't... I'm getting as FAR away from them as I can as quickly as I can!

CEOofEVIL wrote:- Drinking while shooting. I've seen this done by a father while shooting with his kids. He kindly offered me a Tecate and I declined.

I would be if I had declined too.

Just kidding, drink responsibly everyone!