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Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:48 pm
by speedsix
stroo wrote:Somehow, I don't think the Texas Parks and Wildlife official quoted in the original article was advocating shooting them.
Right idea though!
...probably was trying to keep things quiet...but that is the law...and a coyote is not a game animal in Texas...so I'll follow the law...
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wi ... protected/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ( for those who don't wanna read the link, it says you can get Mama a coyote fur coat for free...
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:28 pm
by apostate
If they eat stray cats, coyotes are welcome in my neighborhood.
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:28 pm
by speedsix
...no self-respecting coyote would eat a cat...'ceptin' maybe at night when noone could see...
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:43 am
by C-dub
Get a Llama.
Okay, well, a couple of large dogs would do. Maybe a Rottie or Pyrenees.
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:37 am
by jimlongley
texasag93 wrote:"I want the coyotes out of here. I want to have protection for our children and our pets. This means we can't let our kids come out for a moment or our pets into our back yard. This is ridiculous," said McCallister.
........if she wants them out of there, shoot them.
I'm all for shooting them, and I think my next gun related purchase might just be some smaller buckshot, I think 00 might just be looked upon as overkill, even if they are a threat. We hear them regularly in Allen, although my fence is pretty tall, so my yard may be safer then hers - she needs to mend her fence a little.
I would like to point out to the young lady, though, that the situation is exactly the reverse, we are living in their back yards.
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:39 am
by kjolly
Last hunting trip I was surrounded by them but never saw one. Just heard the howls. Kind of a spooky feeling knowing there is a pack around you.
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:57 am
by smtimelevi
I'd shoot every one I saw if they were attacking and killing my dog. I would also continue to kill them when I saw them after that. Its not illegal, dont know why everybody so worried about the poor coyotes if they're killing pets.
Funny how these folks act like they're helpless and the government must do something to save them.
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:27 am
by speedsix
...coyotes are the rats of the dog kingdom...
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:47 am
by RoyGBiv
Our property backs up to about 20 acres of wooded land that's surrounded by streets and houses. Down the road about a half mile is a fire station. In the winter (never the summer), when the sirens start howling out of the fire station, the coyotes will howl back at the EMS sirens. I'd guessitimate 6 to 8 individuals last year.
My dog will occasionally go crazy throwing herself against the back fence in our yard. Opossums or coyotes for sure. I've seen the occasional coyote crossing our street, heading back towards the woods.
Once I spotted a pretty large coyote trotting down the road in an adjacent neighborhood in the middle of the day. I called the police (non emergency number) to report it. They said, "We've had several reports of that coyote today." "Any suggestions", I said. The dispatcher said "They were there before your house was, just ignore it."
So far, we've not had any attacks or missing pets reported.
If I find one in the yard acting aggressively, it's nice to know I can shoot it if I need to, without it being a crime.
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:51 am
by speedsix
...someone with no common sense might want to charge you with your local equivalent of discharging firearms within city limits or in a dedicated subdivision, but it's not likely when the LEO finds out that the coyote was snarling and advancing on you or a pet...(though humans aren't protected by that law you linked)
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/ ... /B/822.013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:27 am
by Heartland Patriot
speedsix wrote:...no self-respecting coyote would eat a cat...'ceptin' maybe at night when noone could see...
I lived in the South Texas Brush Country as a teenager, out on "the ranch" as they say down there. One night we heard a howling racket outside that woke us up. My dad grabbed the old H&R 12 ga. and handed me the flashlight and we headed toward the fence. He played the light around and we couldn't hardly believe what we saw. A coyote was just on the other side of the fence with his head down whipping it from side to side with something kind of hanging underneath his head/neck area...and then it came loose and the coyote took off running back into the brush. The thing under his head/neck turned out to be our "barn cat" tom named Rocky...he came wandering under the fence and onto the property, got over to us and set down and started licking blood off of himself. After a bit, we got him to come over and checked him out. He didn't have any injuries that we could find, but I think he messed that coyote up a little. He also lived through several rattlesnake bites...He was a heck of a good barn cat.
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:55 am
by wharvey
smtimelevi wrote:
Funny how these folks act like they're helpless and the government must do something to save them.
Like the couple who called 911 when they got lost in a corn maze this year.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationn ... l-911.html
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:03 pm
by Ruark
Bottom line question: if you live where there is a city ordinance against discharging firearms within the city limits, and you use a firearm to kill a coyote that is attacking, threatening to attack, or has attacked your or your pet(s) or livestock, is the PC cite below a defense against prosecution?
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:23 pm
by speedsix
...PC9.22 should satisfy that situation...
Re: Coyotes...again
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:00 pm
by RoyGBiv
I would think (not sure) that 9.22 wold cover you if the animal was going to attack YOU or another person and not your dog.
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/9.22.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Also... PC 42.092 covers "Dangerous Wild Animals", which includes Coyote, but not dogs.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... /PE.42.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(d) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the actor had a reasonable fear of bodily injury to the actor or to another person by a dangerous wild animal as defined by Section 822.101, Health and Safety Code
http://law.onecle.com/texas/health/822.101.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(4) "Dangerous wild animal" means:
(A) a lion;
(B) a tiger;
(C) an ocelot;
(D) a cougar;
(E) a leopard;
(F) a cheetah;
(G) a jaguar;
(H) a bobcat;
(I) a lynx;
(J) a serval;
(K) a caracal;
(L) a hyena;
(M) a bear;
(N) a coyote;
(O) a jackal;
(P) a baboon;
(Q) a chimpanzee;
(R) an orangutan;
(S) a gorilla; or
(T) any hybrid of an animal listed in this
subdivision.