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Re: NH man arrested for firing gun to catch burglar

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:16 pm
by texanron
OUTSTANDING!

Re: NH man arrested for firing gun to catch burglar

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:02 am
by JP171
fickman wrote:My guideline is:
- Showing (drawing / aiming) a firearm is threatening the use of deadly force- Firing a firearm is using deadly force

If it's enough of a threat to pull the trigger (use deadly force), then I want it aimed at the threat. If the threat doesn't yet merit deadly force, then I have no business pulling the trigger.

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Drawing a firearm and telling him to freeze lets the BG know you're serious. You don't need to add a punctuation mark on that. If he flees, then he's not a threat, and the police can come and do their detective work.

I do feel for this victim. I hope the DA decreases the charges but I wouldn't object if he ends up paying a misdemeanor fine and the lesson for the entire gun community is reinforced a little.
if this is your opinion thats fine, but it is not what the law says. there are times when just the act of showing a weapon can stop escalation

Re: NH man arrested for firing gun to catch burglar

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:06 am
by Keith B
JP171 wrote:
fickman wrote:My guideline is:
- Showing (drawing / aiming) a firearm is threatening the use of deadly force- Firing a firearm is using deadly force

If it's enough of a threat to pull the trigger (use deadly force), then I want it aimed at the threat. If the threat doesn't yet merit deadly force, then I have no business pulling the trigger.

In this story:
Drawing a firearm and telling him to freeze lets the BG know you're serious. You don't need to add a punctuation mark on that. If he flees, then he's not a threat, and the police can come and do their detective work.

I do feel for this victim. I hope the DA decreases the charges but I wouldn't object if he ends up paying a misdemeanor fine and the lesson for the entire gun community is reinforced a little.
if this is your opinion thats fine, but it is not what the law says. there are times when just the act of showing a weapon can stop escalation
I don't disagree on the showing being a possible deterrent and enough to stop a person. However, i am like fickman and I will not draw my firearm without the intent to use it if the presentation doesn't stop the threat. In the NH guys case, the firing of his weapon into the ground was not a good move. And, while it did the trick, he is lucky the DA decided to not pursue charges.

Re: NH man arrested for firing gun to catch burglar

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:11 am
by JP171
I won't argue the "warning shot" was a bad move, and yes if I draw I do plan on further use if needed, but hey if the show makes the bg go hey did its job