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Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:04 am
by psijac
By the time this gets to the supreme court Obama will have had packed it with all progressives

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:51 am
by Kythas
psijac wrote:By the time this gets to the supreme court Obama will have had packed it with all progressives
That depends. The two Justices who are thought to be retiring during the next four years are Ginsberg and, possibly, Breyer. Both of them were appointed by Clinton.

Ginsberg consistently votes liberal; in fact, she almost always dissents with any ruling of the Conservatives on the Court. She is the most liberal member of the court.

Breyer usually votes liberal, but has voted centrist in the past.

Both Breyer and Ginsberg voted against the Heller decision. Breyer wrote the dissenting opinion.

If both of these Justices retire, and Obama is re-elected, he will replace them with people just as liberal, thus maintaining the status quo on the Court. If a Republican gets elected, then I have no idea who would replace them. It would depend on who the Republican nominee is. I could see Romney putting a moderate in there who might turn out to be liberal, much as Souter was who was nominated by G.H.W. Bush. Kennedy, who was appointed by Reagan, also sometimes votes liberal.

If the GOP gains control of the Senate, however, then the GOP could filibuster any nominee which they believe to be too liberal.

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:30 am
by jimlongley
codeguy wrote:
RHenriksen wrote:Yep, this looks like a BIG lever. How many hops to get to SCOTUS, assuming MD appeals?
The typical pattern of appeals would be this, assuming that whomever loses at each stop along the way wants to carry on the fight:

. . .

Please note: I am an attorney, but nothing in the above is or should be taken as any kind of legal advice. If you need legal advice, seek out a competent attorney in your area.

Best,
codeguy
Thank you for your concise explanation.

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:10 am
by RoyGBiv
drjoker wrote:come election time, I'm going to write a check to judge U.S. District Judge Benson Everett Legg's re-election campaign!
Federal judges are appointed, not elected...
Save your money for whoever is the Republican nominee.. :mrgreen:

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Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:31 am
by RPB
RoyGBiv wrote:
drjoker wrote:come election time, I'm going to write a check to judge U.S. District Judge Benson Everett Legg's re-election campaign!
Federal judges are appointed, not elected...
Save your money for whoever is the Republican nominee.. :mrgreen:

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And pray it isn't one who primarily appoints anti-gun/anti-freedom "loophole-closing" (freedom-taking) type Judges .... but has a record of >>> "says-anything-to-get-elected"
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“Many of Romney’s appointments were not only liberal, not only Democrats, but were radical counter-constitutionalists. How on earth can we expect that, as president, he would be any different?” Barber asked rhetorically.

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:36 pm
by magillapd
This is a great thing. When I visit my parents in Pennsylvania, I drive thru Maryland and West Virginia. I am so nervous in that short streach of I-81. They are so anti gun there.

What I am waiting for is West Virginia to allow Texas CHL holders in their state so I could just carry away! Or Ohio for that matter!

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:23 pm
by MyLittle1911
Another victory! It's good to know that there are a few Judges out there who have read the constitution, and not just used it as a coaster for their coffee mugs! :woohoo

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:41 pm
by chasfm11
magillapd wrote:This is a great thing. When I visit my parents in Pennsylvania, I drive thru Maryland and West Virginia. I am so nervous in that short streach of I-81. They are so anti gun there.

What I am waiting for is West Virginia to allow Texas CHL holders in their state so I could just carry away! Or Ohio for that matter!
We, too, have relatives in PA. When we drive through MD, I lock the gun and ammo up to meet the Federal transport requirement. The last thing that I'm worried about is a MD LEO but then I make sure that I'm not over the speed limit, regardless of how fast those around us are going. It helps that we are in an RV.

For WVA, you could get either an AZ or a Utah out of State license and solve the problem. Utah solves Ohio, too. I'm probably going to do one of those myself this year.

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:18 am
by ralewis
chasfm11 wrote:
magillapd wrote:This is a great thing. When I visit my parents in Pennsylvania, I drive thru Maryland and West Virginia. I am so nervous in that short streach of I-81. They are so anti gun there.

What I am waiting for is West Virginia to allow Texas CHL holders in their state so I could just carry away! Or Ohio for that matter!
We, too, have relatives in PA. When we drive through MD, I lock the gun and ammo up to meet the Federal transport requirement. The last thing that I'm worried about is a MD LEO but then I make sure that I'm not over the speed limit, regardless of how fast those around us are going. It helps that we are in an RV.

For WVA, you could get either an AZ or a Utah out of State license and solve the problem. Utah solves Ohio, too. I'm probably going to do one of those myself this year.
Have the same situation. Looks like there is no easy way to get to PA without locking it up in the trunk. My family is planning a PA trip to visit relatives this summer, and I too am worried about that little bit of MD you have to go thru on I81.

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:53 am
by steveincowtown
This is great news. Hopefully (although it will take time) it will make a difference.

When I lived in MD I frequently carried large sums of cash while making deposit for a retail store. One of my Assistant Manager's was stabbed dropping of the nightly deposit. I took this info to the local State Police barracks and asked for the application for a CCP. They wouldn't even give me the paperwork!

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:21 am
by terryg
chasfm11 wrote:For WVA, you could get either an AZ or a Utah out of State license and solve the problem. Utah solves Ohio, too. I'm probably going to do one of those myself this year.
Actually, AZ solves Ohio as well. AZ gets you NV, OH, WV. It cost $60 and you can use your TX CHL as proof of proficiency.

Re: MD gun law found unconstitutional

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:09 pm
by RPB
Good related article
Mar 07, 2012 03:15 PM EST
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