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Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:03 pm
by JP171
guys, able bodied is a very loose term, you do not have to meet current federal military requirements, running isn't a criteria nor is being able to ruck 20 miles. as long sa you can get your butt up and move without falling out while carrying a weapon thats able bodied. I have a 60 yo man in my squad, as well as a guy that has bad knees (as in no catilage) being a member of an organized militia isn't as hard as you might think

You're it!

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:36 pm
by E10
Beiruty wrote:Why in the world, TX does not train and maintain a well regulated militia (other than the national guard).
We already have a militia, and most of us on this forum are members. If you're able-bodied (your own definition), own a firearm, and are willing to respond in defense of yourself, your family, and your community, you're the militia.

The Texas State Guard might also fill the role, but it isn't necessary to be a member of an organized unit. There are also budgetary issues that would need addressing.

Take a good look at the next member of the National Guard you run across. If he's (she's) in the camouflage uniform, check out what it says over the left pocket: 'U. S. Army'. That ain't the militia, it's part of the standing army.

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:29 pm
by The Annoyed Man
JP171 wrote:guys, able bodied is a very loose term, you do not have to meet current federal military requirements, running isn't a criteria nor is being able to ruck 20 miles. as long sa you can get your butt up and move without falling out while carrying a weapon thats able bodied. I have a 60 yo man in my squad, as well as a guy that has bad knees (as in no catilage) being a member of an organized militia isn't as hard as you might think
Ok, so I requested on the website for a recruiter to contact me.

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:44 am
by bagman45
Same place as you other old guys ;-) Just got 2 new hips, so I can walk again, but still have a bunch of weight to lose. We can be the "overwatch" snipers, and provide sage advise on tactics and strategy. Hmm, maybe we militia boys could take our rockers and long range weapons :txflag: down by the border and fix up the security issue down in those parts.... :patriot:

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:36 pm
by Txfire409
There is a Texas State Militia.

http://texasstatemilitia.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:31 pm
by Dragonfighter
The Annoyed Man wrote:<SNIP>
I am 60 years old, and I am not entirely able-bodied. So by the above definition, I am no longer a part of the militia; and that breaks my heart because in my mind and my heart, I am very much part of it. I may not be able to run with a carbine and keep up with the young folks, but I have useful skills....not the least of which is being patient with young folks.
<SNIP>
- em mine

Age and treachery always overcomes youth and skill.

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:00 pm
by TexasGal
Y'all better not leave us Texas Women out of this party. :txflag:

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:00 am
by OldCannon
gigag04 wrote:Cost, liability, and lack of need, are my first three guesses. It sounds good in theory, but I'm not sure what benefit the state would get by it.
You can find all the state-sanctioned militia stuff right next to the Civil Defense plans. :roll:

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:14 am
by 77346
Txfire409 wrote:There is a Texas State Militia.

http://texasstatemilitia.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:shock: who are those guys?

Re: You're it!

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:35 am
by JP171
E10 wrote:
Beiruty wrote:Why in the world, TX does not train and maintain a well regulated militia (other than the national guard).
We already have a militia, and most of us on this forum are members. If you're able-bodied (your own definition), own a firearm, and are willing to respond in defense of yourself, your family, and your community, you're the militia.

The Texas State Guard might also fill the role, but it isn't necessary to be a member of an organized unit. There are also budgetary issues that would need addressing.

Take a good look at the next member of the National Guard you run across. If he's (she's) in the camouflage uniform, check out what it says over the left pocket: 'U. S. Army'. That ain't the militia, it's part of the standing army.

ok so you misunderstand the concept of the national guard, the uniform may have US Army on it however the National guard is actually 1 of 3 TEXAS military forces under the direct control of the Adjutant General of the State Of Texas. The Texas National Guard can be federalized by request of the US Army, Governor Perry does NOT have to allow that to happen. The NG is and always will be under Texas Authority, Texas pays for the NG and can make the decisions concerning the deployment of the NG and that includes the Air Guard as well

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:37 am
by Beiruty
If the ban ever passed, which I don't expect, the TX state would have to issue DPS TX defense corps reserve id cards. for anyone who has black rifle or would like to have one. Regular organizational meeting and training is conducted at your nearest range.

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:53 am
by The Annoyed Man
JP171 wrote:guys, able bodied is a very loose term, you do not have to meet current federal military requirements, running isn't a criteria nor is being able to ruck 20 miles. as long sa you can get your butt up and move without falling out while carrying a weapon thats able bodied. I have a 60 yo man in my squad, as well as a guy that has bad knees (as in no catilage) being a member of an organized militia isn't as hard as you might think
I got a phone call yesterday from the local recruiter, and she emailed me an application package last night. I'll go through it tonight.

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:35 am
by WildBill
From 1930 to present, the life expectancy of U.S. male has increased 18 years. So 63 is the new 45.

Re: You're it!

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:38 pm
by donkey
JP171 wrote:
ok so you misunderstand the concept of the national guard, the uniform may have US Army on it however the National guard is actually 1 of 3 TEXAS military forces under the direct control of the Adjutant General of the State Of Texas. The Texas National Guard can be federalized by request of the US Army, Governor Perry does NOT have to allow that to happen. The NG is and always will be under Texas Authority, Texas pays for the NG and can make the decisions concerning the deployment of the NG and that includes the Air Guard as well
The governor's consent is only required for activating NG troops under Title 32 orders. The Federal government is capable of activating the NG under Title 10 orders without consulting the governor. Most of the funding for the NG comes from the federal government and in many cases the federal government actually owns the equipment used by the NG.

Re: TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:00 pm
by G26ster
The term United States Army has changed over time. Here is a quote from wikipedia, which I believe to be true:

"Currently, the army is divided into the Regular Army, the Army Reserve, and the Army National Guard. The army is also divided into major branches such as Air Defense Artillery, Infantry, Aviation, Signal Corps, Corps of Engineers, and Armor. Before 1903 members of the National Guard were considered state soldiers unless federalized (i.e., activated) by the President. Since the Militia Act of 1903 all National Guard soldiers have held dual status: as National Guardsmen under the authority of the governor of their state or territory and, when activated, as a reserve of the U.S. Army under the authority of the President."