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Abraham wrote:There are many, honorable federal agents.

Give Obama a little more time, he'll weed them out.

Abraham wrote:I understand with Obama/Holder and the rest of the socialists in power why citizens are often distrustful of federal type agents, but painting ALL federal agents with the "them against us brush" doesn't make sense to me.

There are many, honorable federal agents.

I'm not speaking of individual agents, I understand that many men and women put in long hours trying to do what they think is right; I'm talking about Homeland Security as a whole. To me, that was one of Mr. Bush's biggest mistakes, creating another overarching Federal bureaucracy that answers to very few people. I want to know exactly what they are doing to keep us safe by buying multiples of these armored cars. Yeah, I saw the "serve a high-risk warrant" thing...then the vehicle should have something to identify it as such, not Police/Rescue. Sounds like them playing euphemism games, like "seek and destroy" became "sweep and clear". I don't think the actual bad-guys will have any guesswork to do if that shows up at the crackhouse.

Nine times out of ten, a person driving one of those in an urban environment is overcompensating.

And the 1 in 10 exceptions are pretty much limited to urban war zones the Middle East.

But, but, but I thought that the DHS buying all those MRAPS was a conspiracy theory!

I'd like to know why a 'rescue' vehicle needs to be armored. Wouldn't a van carry rescuers and gear just as well?

What LE powers does DHS have on it's own? The agency overseas and coordinates between many federal LE entities, but when did it become "Police/Rescue" on it's own? I'm used to seeing vehicles marked, police, sheriff, fire, border patrol, customs, TSA, etc., clearly telling the citizens which agency it is, but this is a first for me. What LE agency is DHS?

Redneck_Buddha wrote:But, but, but I thought that the DHS buying all those MRAPS was a conspiracy theory!

That is not an MRAP. JLTV maybe but not an MRAP.

Be careful when you start slinging impressive acronyms around.

MRAP

JLTV

Uh-huh...

Federal folk LOVE acronyms and when I see em, I start gettin the conspiratorial vibe.

You boys aint from around heah ah yew?

Is that a little curly wire going into yore eah, hmmmmmm?

G26ster wrote:What LE powers does DHS have on it's own? The agency overseas and coordinates between many federal LE entities, but when did it become "Police/Rescue" on it's own? I'm used to seeing vehicles marked, police, sheriff, fire, border patrol, customs, TSA, etc., clearly telling the citizens which agency it is, but this is a first for me. What LE agency is DHS?

http://www.dhs.gov/types-jobs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
U.S. Secret Service
Federal Protective Service

texanjoker wrote:

G26ster wrote:What LE powers does DHS have on it's own? The agency overseas and coordinates between many federal LE entities, but when did it become "Police/Rescue" on it's own? I'm used to seeing vehicles marked, police, sheriff, fire, border patrol, customs, TSA, etc., clearly telling the citizens which agency it is, but this is a first for me. What LE agency is DHS?

http://www.dhs.gov/types-jobs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
U.S. Secret Service
Federal Protective Service

I mentioned that the DHS "oversees" agencies. So the uniformed agencies you list no longer mark their vehicles with the name of the specific agency, and just say DHS Police/Rescue?

K.Mooneyham wrote: But please, give me a real world example that would require Homeland Security to have an armored car, for that is what it is, and to have what amounts to large numbers of them (more than two or three).

They bought them to transport all of the .22lr and 9mm they now possess...

Abraham wrote:Be careful when you start slinging impressive acronyms around.

MRAP

JLTV

Uh-huh...

Federal folk LOVE acronyms and when I see em, I start gettin the conspiratorial vibe.

You boys aint from around heah ah yew?

Is that a little curly wire going into yore eah, hmmmmmm?

For the love of Google

MRAP...Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JLTV...Joint Light Tactical Vehicle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Ligh ... al_Vehicle" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wouldn't want to be going against the grain to make you all nervous by using acronyms here at a CHL site, that I got from DPS and I can talk about my AR or SA-Pistols.

SF18C wrote:

Abraham wrote:Be careful when you start slinging impressive acronyms around.

MRAP

JLTV

Uh-huh...

Federal folk LOVE acronyms and when I see em, I start gettin the conspiratorial vibe.

You boys aint from around heah ah yew?

Is that a little curly wire going into yore eah, hmmmmmm?

For the love of Google

MRAP...Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JLTV...Joint Light Tactical Vehicle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Ligh ... al_Vehicle" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wouldn't want to be going against the grain to make you all nervous by using acronyms here at a CHL site, that I got from DPS and I can talk about my AR or SA-Pistols.

You gotta remember that some of us here only know Jeep, 3/4 Ton, Deuce and a half, and Tank.

strider67 wrote:

K.Mooneyham wrote: But please, give me a real world example that would require Homeland Security to have an armored car, for that is what it is, and to have what amounts to large numbers of them (more than two or three).

They bought them to transport all of the .22lr and 9mm they now possess...

I'm not wearing a "tin-foil hat" about this. I believe my question was a serious question. Those things are on the light end of the scale but they are still AFVs (armored fighting vehicles). If they are going to be having those things, and spending the taxpayers' money on them, then I want to see some dead cartel members on the news, at least. Because I have yet to see anything that justifies them having those. Otherwise, they are just driving around, trying to look like a bunch of toughguys and eating up MORE taxpayer money on fuel (and I'm sure they ain't fuel-efficient).

Redneck_Buddha wrote:But, but, but I thought that the DHS buying all those MRAPS was a conspiracy theory!

but but but they told me that those were actually for the marines not DHS... i guess this picture is in Anbar Povince...