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You are right. In the scenario you describe, the parking lot was not the property that was posted. My point being that the term premises is not used in 30.06. It specifies property which does not have the limiting definition that premises does.

3dfxMM wrote: 30.06 is not limited to the premises. It covers whatever property is posted.

I have yet to see a 30.06 sign at a entrance to a parking lot. Hopefully someone will chime in with a better understanding on what this means.

nightmare69 wrote:

3dfxMM wrote: 30.06 is not limited to the premises. It covers whatever property is posted.

I have yet to see a 30.06 sign at a entrance to a parking lot. Hopefully someone will chime in with a better understanding on what this means.

If one or more entrances to a private premises are via private parking lot entrances with 30.06 signs, then that parking lot and all the premises are off limits.

If just the building is posted, then the parking lot is fair game.

Cap'n wrote:As the OP, I don't know if I learned anything new, but I do thank folks for trying to help.

My concern was whether I had any additional legal obligations beyond locking my car (with EDC gun) when having to enter a 30.06 area, e.g., hospital, post office, polling station, etc. The 30.06 places we can't avoid. Don't think I've ever taken my discretionary $ to a business posted as 30.06.

My proposed workaround -- lacking any other options in a small car -- was to clear the pistol, leave the pistol concealed in the locked car (but not in a locked box ... no room for a concealed lock box), and carry the mag & ammo with me. The last step was in the unlikely event my pistol was stolen, the empty pistol couldn't immediately be used to harm anyone.

I'm not sure how 30.06 got injected into your question, but.......there's 2 things here. If you're asking about the legal requirement of storing a gun in your car, "out of plain sight". That's it. If you're goofy enough to leave the top down, doors unlocked, keys in the ignition and a firearm on the seat with a newspaper covering it, go for it (don't). Hopefully you aren't that goofy.

From the common sense and responsible gun owner angle......obviously it's best to have a good way to secure and store the gun, as well as doing all the other usual things to not make your car the easy target for a a thief. If you can secure it, there's no reason to unload it. Actually, I'd never want to leave a gun in a car where it's not secure enough for me to feel comfortable (as comfortable as I can be leaving it in a car) leaving it loaded.

That said, I have a secure lock box but it's not real convenient for quick stops where I need to secure it, but where those places are, I'm OK with a quick in and out with it tucked away but not locked away. In 2 common cases, my vehicle isn't out of my sight for more than a minute or so and it's in a visible, secure area as it is.

I was in Academy yesterday and they had the Game Winner gun box on clearance for $15. I don't know if it's a statewide deal or local but maybe worth checking out if someone needs one in their car or truck. Or their luggage.

Jumping Frog wrote:Clearing your gun is unnecessary gun handling and is a safety issue. First loading and unloading your gun inside a car has no safe muzzle direction that won't damage something you are unwilling to destroy.

Second, repeated unload/load cycles risk bullet setback which is dangerous. Use the search function, above, for "bullet setback" to familiarize yourself.

If I need to leave my gun in the car, I simply pull my holster/gun out of my belt as a single unit, put it in my center console, and lock my car.

Not only do , but this is also what I do when required.