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.22's are not allowed for CHL proficiency - those have to be .32 or larger.

You can use a .22 for your NRA Pistol Instructor course.

You cannot use a .22 for your PPIH or PPOH course.

Keith B wrote:

texasjeep44 wrote:

My understanding is that .22's aren't allowed for the NRA Instructor qualifications. Supposed to be 9mm/38 or bigger.

Nope, you can use a .22, it's fine. http://www.wcwinc.org/club/firearmsedfo ... RA-Std.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That course of fire isn't used any more.

I did go back and look and you can use a .22, although the last course I went to and helped with the students weren't allowed to use .22's by the counselor.

Current course of fire is as follows.

PHASE 3 – PISTOL SHOOTING
Location: Range
Candidate will shoot any gun of their choice, regardless of action, sights or caliber, at a
blank 9 inch diameter paper target at a distance of 15 yards. Candidates will fire 20 shots
from a two-handed, unsupported, standing position. Targets will be broken into two tenshot
targets or four five-shot targets. Three points will be given for each scoring hit. In
order for a hit to count, it must fall inside a ½” border from the edge of the plate. Shots
that break the edge of the ½” border will count as hits. All scoring hits on a target must
be within a 6” or less extreme spread (see below). Candidates will be allowed to shoot
their own firearms if desired. Two requalification shoots are allowed within any 24-hour
period.
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texasjeep44 wrote:

Keith B wrote:

texasjeep44 wrote:

My understanding is that .22's aren't allowed for the NRA Instructor qualifications. Supposed to be 9mm/38 or bigger.

Nope, you can use a .22, it's fine. http://www.wcwinc.org/club/firearmsedfo ... RA-Std.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That course of fire isn't used any more.

I did go back and look and you can use a .22, although the last course I went to and helped with the students weren't allowed to use .22's by the counselor.

Current course of fire is as follows.

PHASE 3 – PISTOL SHOOTING
Location: Range
Candidate will shoot any gun of their choice, regardless of action, sights or caliber, at a
blank 9 inch diameter paper target at a distance of 15 yards. Candidates will fire 20 shots
from a two-handed, unsupported, standing position. Targets will be broken into two tenshot
targets or four five-shot targets. Three points will be given for each scoring hit. In
order for a hit to count, it must fall inside a ½” border from the edge of the plate. Shots
that break the edge of the ½” border will count as hits. All scoring hits on a target must
be within a 6” or less extreme spread (see below). Candidates will be allowed to shoot
their own firearms if desired. Two requalification shoots are allowed within any 24-hour
period.
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Is that a half inch border INSIDE the plate, or OUTSIDE the plate?

I believe it is 1/2 inch inside the plate.

sjfcontrol wrote: Is that a half inch border INSIDE the plate, or OUTSIDE the plate?

Explain to me how you'd measure a shot that was 1/2 inch outside the plate with a plate hung by a clip or some other device that doesn't provide a backing to the plate?

As has been said, it's a 1/2inch border inside the outer edge of the plate.

No, the qualifications for the basic pistol qualification is nothing to laugh about.

n5wd wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote: Is that a half inch border INSIDE the plate, or OUTSIDE the plate?

Explain to me how you'd measure a shot that was 1/2 inch outside the plate with a plate hung by a clip or some other device that doesn't provide a backing to the plate?

As has been said, it's a 1/2inch border inside the outer edge of the plate.

No, the qualifications for the basic pistol qualification is nothing to laugh about.

Who said it didn't have a backboard?

So if, "it must fall inside a ½ inch border from the edge of the plate", then the way I understand that, the "border" would be the ring extending from the edge of the plate inward ½ inch. So the rounds would have to land within that 1/2" ring. That does sound tough!

When I took the quals, as I recall it was very informal. Fired a few rounds, maybe 10? from a .22. The instructor (councilor?) looked at it and said something like "looks like they're within a 6" diameter", and that was it. We were asked to "throw" one round (purposefully do something to make the round land off-target). As I recall we were aiming at a sheet of 8½ x 11 paper. And there was a backboard. I don't remember the distance, but it wasn't particularly far.

Sorry -my attempt at saying that there a lot of ways to put up a paper plate as target obviously fell short of its goal.

We shot our Personal Protection in the Home qualifications (which matched the Basic Pistol Instructor's qualification IIRC) at the Arms Room in Houston, which used clips attached to a metal arm that moved downrange and back toward the shooter by remote control. It would have been impossible to mark a paper plate with rounds that missed the target by as little as a half inch. That's what I was trying to illustrate.