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Re: House of Blues - Houston 30.06?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:46 am
by mojo84
Keith B wrote:LAYGO wrote:I've got an event for my band being nominated for an award tonight at House of Blues in Dallas. Was considering carrying.
I don't recall being wanded the few times I've been there, but if I try to enter with my pistol, do I show them the CHL & they'll let me in or will they give me notice?
If you show them a CHL they will tell you that you can't carry. Your best bet is to just carry and if they are wanding, go back to the car with it.
Just to clarify, would you go back to put your gun in the car before being checked or would you wait to see if they detect the gun and tell you you can't carry there? I have a feeling the wanding at a lot of places is just for show and may not do a good job at detecting.
Re: House of Blues - Houston 30.06?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:27 pm
by chasfm11
mojo84 wrote:Keith B wrote:LAYGO wrote:I've got an event for my band being nominated for an award tonight at House of Blues in Dallas. Was considering carrying.
I don't recall being wanded the few times I've been there, but if I try to enter with my pistol, do I show them the CHL & they'll let me in or will they give me notice?
If you show them a CHL they will tell you that you can't carry. Your best bet is to just carry and if they are wanding, go back to the car with it.
Just to clarify, would you go back to put your gun in the car before being checked or would you wait to see if they detect the gun and tell you you can't carry there? I have a feeling the wanding at a lot of places is just for show and may not do a good job at detecting.
I really worry about going through a wanding. It would be my luck for them to do a thorough job on me, discover and then hone in on the gun, escalating it to a MWAG call to police before I could prove that I'm legally carrying. At the first hint of wanding, as long as it is a private and not a public location, I'm going to make a go or no go decision. If I'm going to go ahead and try to go in, it is going to be after a trip back to the car. If a governmental entity is involved, I'm going to push it and want the LEOs there. I have no confidence that a private security outfit understands CHL. I was wanded and the machine alerted on both my gun and my spare mag. Fortunately, LE was already there and waved me through.
Re: House of Blues - Houston 30.06?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:46 pm
by Keith B
chasfm11 wrote:mojo84 wrote:Keith B wrote:LAYGO wrote:I've got an event for my band being nominated for an award tonight at House of Blues in Dallas. Was considering carrying.
I don't recall being wanded the few times I've been there, but if I try to enter with my pistol, do I show them the CHL & they'll let me in or will they give me notice?
If you show them a CHL they will tell you that you can't carry. Your best bet is to just carry and if they are wanding, go back to the car with it.
Just to clarify, would you go back to put your gun in the car before being checked or would you wait to see if they detect the gun and tell you you can't carry there? I have a feeling the wanding at a lot of places is just for show and may not do a good job at detecting.
I really worry about going through a wanding. It would be my luck for them to do a thorough job on me, discover and then hone in on the gun, escalating it to a MWAG call to police before I could prove that I'm legally carrying. At the first hint of wanding, as long as it is a private and not a public location, I'm going to make a go or no go decision. If I'm going to go ahead and try to go in, it is going to be after a trip back to the car. If a governmental entity is involved, I'm going to push it and want the LEOs there. I have no confidence that a private security outfit understands CHL. I was wanded and the machine alerted on both my gun and my spare mag. Fortunately, LE was already there and waved me through.
I would do the same as above and once I saw wanding I would go back. You might get lucky, but if they find it at minimum they will give you verbal notice they don't want you carrying.
Re: House of Blues - Houston 30.06?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:23 pm
by LAYGO
Keith B wrote:chasfm11 wrote:mojo84 wrote:Keith B wrote:LAYGO wrote:I've got an event for my band being nominated for an award tonight at House of Blues in Dallas. Was considering carrying.
I don't recall being wanded the few times I've been there, but if I try to enter with my pistol, do I show them the CHL & they'll let me in or will they give me notice?
If you show them a CHL they will tell you that you can't carry. Your best bet is to just carry and if they are wanding, go back to the car with it.
Just to clarify, would you go back to put your gun in the car before being checked or would you wait to see if they detect the gun and tell you you can't carry there? I have a feeling the wanding at a lot of places is just for show and may not do a good job at detecting.
I really worry about going through a wanding. It would be my luck for them to do a thorough job on me, discover and then hone in on the gun, escalating it to a MWAG call to police before I could prove that I'm legally carrying. At the first hint of wanding, as long as it is a private and not a public location, I'm going to make a go or no go decision. If I'm going to go ahead and try to go in, it is going to be after a trip back to the car. If a governmental entity is involved, I'm going to push it and want the LEOs there. I have no confidence that a private security outfit understands CHL. I was wanded and the machine alerted on both my gun and my spare mag. Fortunately, LE was already there and waved me through.
I would do the same as above and once I saw wanding I would go back. You might get lucky, but if they find it at minimum they will give you verbal notice they don't want you carrying.
That's the plan of action I had in my head, so we'll see how it goes tonight. Since tonight is about Dallas area bands, not just one, we'll see if they bother to wand or not.
Re: House of Blues - Houston 30.06?
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:08 pm
by mojo84
I'm sure that is what I would do as well.

Re: House of Blues - Houston 30.06?
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:30 pm
by LAYGO
After action report:
1st: I didn't see any wanding going on.
2nd: I didn't go through the main entrance. I ended up going through the foundation entrance. I sat for awhile with some friends in the restaurant & saw a blue sign. I saw no other signage.
3rd: My band won! Best Cover Band 2013 by the Dallas Observer Music Awards!
Re: House of Blues - Houston 30.06?
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:53 pm
by chasfm11
LAYGO wrote:After action report:
1st: I didn't see any wanding going on.
2nd: I didn't go through the main entrance. I ended up going through the foundation entrance. I sat for awhile with some friends in the restaurant & saw a blue sign. I saw no other signage.
3rd: My band won! Best Cover Band 2013 by the Dallas Observer Music Awards!
Glad that it worked out well for you. I wonder if the main entrance would have made any difference in your approach. Sometimes, the security theater is more pronounced at the place where the greatest deterrent effect could be realized. They obviously are not really serious about security or the foundation entrance would have had more.
Their approach may vary by the size of the audience that they are expecting or perhaps even the specific artist.
Thanks for the feedback