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I've used my TDL since moving back to Texas in '95. The voter registration card is too big to carry on a daily basis. I'm glad that photo id is now a requirement, even if actual voter fraud isn't a huge problem (I think the jury is still out on this). I follow the 'concealed means concealed' line of thought so it's not likely I'll ever use my chl for voting.

philip964 wrote:I was at the right location and had two photo id's. Had to vote provisionally. I just love the government.

So imagine you are an octogenarian who had to go to a lot of trouble to get out and vote and then had to do it provisionally. This now requires a trip to the court house within the week to again prove you are who you are, and likely using the same identification items that were refused at the polling place. They aren't going to make the trip and the vote doesn't count. Just what the diabolical guys in Austin had in mind. If the legislative goal was to prevent illegal aliens from voting, it seems they missed the intended mark and are making it hard or impossible for citizens to exercise their right. Not everyone is 30 years old with 2 forms of photo ID.

Mrs. Oldgringo and I are septuagenarians and we both have had photo ID's out the wazoo for better than a half century. That "old folks with no ID" dog won't hunt.

I believe that voter fraud is much higher than most suspect. There is a genuine reason that leftwing groups are so opposed to the voter ID law and I can give examples of at least two ways that voter turnout can be artificially boosted that I have personally witnessed.

1) "Community Organizers" go to housing projects and throw parties, often times with alcohol, and then bus hundreds of residents to the polls after giving them instructions on who to vote for. These are people that would never go to the polls on their own and are not motivated or informed on the candidates. Anyone involved in the bussing business is going to face a hurdle making sure dozens or hundreds of people who would not go and vote on their own, bother to have updated IDs and bring them to the polls after the party.

2) The second way to beat the system is that leftwing groups like Acorn get access to the voter rolls and collect names of people who have not voted for a number of years. Remember how Holder was fighting states trying to clean out their voter rolls? With this list of names, community organizers get young activists like the "dreamers" who have a political stake in the election and many times are not even legal to vote, and get them to go to the polls and vote under names pulled from the list. I saw this happen last year in Florida while doing a freelance job down there last November. I was working as an RF technician at a big event where all these young kids were claiming to be "Dreamers" and marching for Obama. The following day I was doing the same work at a polling place and saw many of the same kids who the previous day were claiming to be illegal, walking into the polls and voting. There were so many illegals at the polls that day it was shocking.

It is nearly impossible to catch the individual who votes and signs as someone else unless they brag about it or perhaps if they are actually a poll worker and someone tells on them. Showing an ID will significantly help control the really easy ways to scam the system which are being perpetrated by young, liberal/progressive activist groups. Neither the Democrats or the Republicans are fighting this battle because there might be 3 or 4 scammers in the entire state.

I got access to an out of state government facility in KC, MO in the past. The security guard said it is as good as a TX DL. It is a government issued ID.