Re: Abbott supports Open and Campus Carry
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:29 am
Abbott's support in the past leads me to believe he's telling the truth. I'm done with politics for now, though.
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Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:as long as he doesn't have completely opposite views on a couple other subjects he'd have my vote!
I have noticed a Politician's attitude about freedom, liberty, and the Constitution relating to firearms is a very strong indicator of their willingness to entrust other areas of life to the people instead of centralizing government power and reach.cb1000rider wrote:Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:as long as he doesn't have completely opposite views on a couple other subjects he'd have my vote!
Like what? Like you - I'm not going to vote for a candidate *just* because of 2nd amendment views. Those views are bonus, but they're not the "meat".
I care a lot about issues other than guns, but a candidate's position on guns and the Second Amendment is my first inquiry. If they are wrong on either, then I don't care how they feel about anything else. They cannot overcome being wrong on freedom's litmus test.cb1000rider wrote:Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:as long as he doesn't have completely opposite views on a couple other subjects he'd have my vote!
Like what? Like you - I'm not going to vote for a candidate *just* because of 2nd amendment views. Those views are bonus, but they're not the "meat".
I too would like to know what you mean.Cedar Park Dad wrote:Please clarify this statement.Tic Tac wrote:You can see it on some gun forums already with the fifth columnists rampng up their smear tactics on open carry.baldeagle wrote:The liberals are working very hard to take over Texas. They've made it their special project. I guarantee you his support of open carry and campus carry will be used to smear him as an extremist. He'd better be ready to defend himself
I suspect he means exactly what "fifth columnist" means; i.e. there are "traitors" within the gun community opposing open-carry. I anxiously await clarification.Vol Texan wrote:This is only a guess, but I think he's referring to the 'fifth estate', which is a term used to describe the web bloggers. It's an extension of the 'fourth estate' which is a term used to describe the media in general.Cedar Park Dad wrote:Please clarify this statement.Tic Tac wrote:You can see it on some gun forums already with the fifth columnists rampng up their smear tactics on open carry.baldeagle wrote:The liberals are working very hard to take over Texas. They've made it their special project. I guarantee you his support of open carry and campus carry will be used to smear him as an extremist. He'd better be ready to defend himself
From Wikipedia:So...perhaps he means a bunch of trolls out there on other gun forums already ramping up the rhetoric in advance of the 2014 gubernatorial election.Making reference to the medieval concept of "three estates of the realm" (Clergy, Nobility and Commons) and to a more recently developed model of "four estates", which encompasses the media, Nayef Al-Rodhan introduces the weblogs (blogs) as a "fifth estate of the realm". Blogs have potential and real influence on contemporary policymaking, especially in the context of elections, reporting from conflict zones, and raising dissent over corporate or congressional policies. Based on these observations, Al-Rodhan suggests moving beyond traditional thinking that limits the “estates of the realm” to governmental action and proposes a broader perspective in which civilians or anyone with access to a computer and the Internet can contribute to the global political change and security.[5]
That makes sense. To me, it's not primary. I want to know how they're going to manage our money and the economy in general. Texas is in good shape - maybe thanks to Perry - maybe nothing to do with Perry - and I don't want that screwed up. 2nd amendment comes in lower place.Charles L. Cotton wrote: I care a lot about issues other than guns, but a candidate's position on guns and the Second Amendment is my first inquiry. If they are wrong on either, then I don't care how they feel about anything else. They cannot overcome being wrong on freedom's litmus test.
Chas.
Smitherman is quite the sparkplug and also 2A dedicated, having been first in the State (AFAIK) to permit his RR Commission employees to CHL on the job.SQLGeek wrote:I hope we can replace him with somebody just as qualified.
Keith - That's probably the best explanation that I have heard.Keith B wrote:The state is turning blue because they are trying to choke the living crap out of everything good thing there is here.baldeagle wrote: The leftists are spending megabucks here to turn the state blue.
nightmare69 wrote:If we go blue state income tax will not be far behind. I hate to say this but I see it happening within the next decade, I pray that I am wrong.
Those that protect and/or act to restore my God given right to self defense has insured I can protect all of my other natural rights.I care a lot about issues other than guns, but a candidate's position on guns and the Second Amendment is my first inquiry. If they are wrong on either, then I don't care how they feel about anything else. They cannot overcome being wrong on freedom's litmus test.
Chas.