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Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:56 am
by mojo84
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I don't know what the civil law is there, but if this were in Texas and if she had a contract with Fox, I'd be filing a suit for tortuous interference with contractual relationship. Get an injunction, attorney fees and perhaps other remedies.

Chas.
How? They are using free speech. I don't agree with it, but thats kind of the point of the Big 2A, to protect the rights of others to say what we don't like and admit how stupid they are. ;-)
Tortious interference is attempting to interfere in the contractual relationship existing between two other parties.

Sure, they have free speech, but that neither justifies falsely yelling fire in a movie theater nor interfering in someone's contract.
Which they are doing neither. Good luck with making that claim in court.


They are trying to get her fired. If they are successful, then they will have interfered with her employment contract. There is a difference between voicing one's opinion and causing damage to someone for doing something perfectly legal.

Also, the 2nd Amendmemt goes both ways. She just published her story and attended events. Why should she be punished by those that disagree with her by losing her job?

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:18 am
by BigGuy
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Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:39 am
by Charles L. Cotton
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I don't know what the civil law is there, but if this were in Texas and if she had a contract with Fox, I'd be filing a suit for tortuous interference with contractual relationship. Get an injunction, attorney fees and perhaps other remedies.

Chas.
How? They are using free speech. I don't agree with it, but thats kind of the point of the Big 2A, to protect the rights of others to say what we don't like and admit how stupid they are. ;-)
Tortious interference is attempting to interfere in the contractual relationship existing between two other parties.

Sure, they have free speech, but that neither justifies falsely yelling fire in a movie theater nor interfering in someone's contract.
Which they are doing neither. Good luck with making that claim in court.
First Amendment protects people from government, not other citizens bringing recognized claims. Your Second Amendment rights don't force me to allow you into my home with your gun.

As I said, I don't know D.C. law, but it would be a viable claim in Texas.

Chas.

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:46 am
by mojo84
Interesting how many do not understand this.
First Amendment protects people from government

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:07 am
by VMI77
mojo84 wrote:Interesting how many do not understand this.
First Amendment protects people from government
Oh, a lot of those that howl understand it, they just think it only applies to their enemies.

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:22 am
by chasfm11
Signed.

Now 231.

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:05 pm
by E.Marquez
AndyC wrote:Thanks, all :)

245 now - funny, I thought with as much as Emily had done for exposing government and promoting gun-rights, this would be in the thousands already. I've posted the link everywhere I can think of, and even Emily is aware of it now :???:
Good idea., I'll cross post

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:24 pm
by mojo84
AndyC wrote:Thanks, all :)

245 now - funny, I thought with as much as Emily had done for exposing government and promoting gun-rights, this would be in the thousands already. I've posted the link everywhere I can think of, and even Emily is aware of it now :???:

She needs to tweet it out to her followers if she hasn't.

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:11 pm
by VoiceofReason
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I don't know what the civil law is there, but if this were in Texas and if she had a contract with Fox, I'd be filing a suit for tortuous interference with contractual relationship. Get an injunction, attorney fees and perhaps other remedies.

Chas.
How? They are using free speech. I don't agree with it, but thats kind of the point of the Big 2A, to protect the rights of others to say what we don't like and admit how stupid they are. ;-)
Tortious interference is attempting to interfere in the contractual relationship existing between two other parties.

Sure, they have free speech, but that neither justifies falsely yelling fire in a movie theater nor interfering in someone's contract.
Which they are doing neither. Good luck with making that claim in court.
Signed

The First Amendment won't protect you against a slander suit.

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:22 pm
by jimlongley
Signed, and 20 of the 25 people I forwarded it to have responded that they signed.

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:24 pm
by VoiceofReason
AndyC wrote:Thanks, all :)

245 now - funny, I thought with as much as Emily had done for exposing government and promoting gun-rights, this would be in the thousands already. I've posted the link everywhere I can think of, and even Emily is aware of it now :???:
I don't think the count is kept current.

They are giving her a lot of free publicity.

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:01 pm
by VoiceofReason
I would like to see more lawsuits against the anti-gun organizations when they lie and the media when they intentionally slant a story.

During the George Zimmerman saga, Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence had so many lies on their site it made my stomach turn. The more ground they lose, the more desperate they get and the more lies they manufacture.

The lies they tell make each of us look bad as a gun owners and have even encouraged the “swatting” of gun owners.

Is there any practical way of stopping this?

Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:17 pm
by rbwhatever1
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Re: CSGV campaigns to have Emily Miller fired

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:00 pm
by gljjt
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