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Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:43 pm
by hornetfan63
The Annoyed Man wrote:
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
Wow. :roll:
:iagree:

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:23 pm
by bigity
Outstanding.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:19 pm
by Vol Texan
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
I bet he saw this as a good mentoring opportunity, and a way to develop a personal bond with a person with whom he may someday have another encounter. It sounded like good policing to me.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:27 pm
by KD5NRH
jmra wrote:He left him with this question, "What if I had needed you and your firearm today to save my life?"
Meh, it's Dallas; just jaywalk and there will be a half dozen transit police there faster than any response to an "officer needs help" call.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:28 pm
by The Annoyed Man
KD5NRH wrote:
jmra wrote:He left him with this question, "What if I had needed you and your firearm today to save my life?"
Meh, it's Dallas; just jaywalk and there will be a half dozen transit police there faster than any response to an "officer needs help" call.
LOLZ.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:44 pm
by EEllis
Vol Texan wrote:
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
I bet he saw this as a good mentoring opportunity, and a way to develop a personal bond with a person with whom he may someday have another encounter. It sounded like good policing to me.
You bond with someone by lecturing them? Because I don't . Sure it's okay with most here because they might agree but what would be the response if it were an anti gun lecture? Different picture then huh? If the cop was just chatting then no problem. If he was indeed lecturing then I disagree with it. It's a personal choice to carry that he sure as heck shouldn't have to defend just because he got pulled over.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:34 pm
by TVGuy
EEllis wrote:
Vol Texan wrote:
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
I bet he saw this as a good mentoring opportunity, and a way to develop a personal bond with a person with whom he may someday have another encounter. It sounded like good policing to me.
You bond with someone by lecturing them? Because I don't . Sure it's okay with most here because they might agree but what would be the response if it were an anti gun lecture? Different picture then huh? If the cop was just chatting then no problem. If he was indeed lecturing then I disagree with it. It's a personal choice to carry that he sure as heck shouldn't have to defend just because he got pulled over.

It's not like the nephew was being detained while given a lecture, I think you're taking it too far.

It's also possible that "lecture" wasn't the proper word to be used. To have a cop talk about the importance of the general public in helping them accomplish their mission is not at all a bad thing.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:17 pm
by MechAg94
Even if the lecture was negative, he didn't give a ticket which is a win-win once you are pulled over.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:30 pm
by jmra
TVGuy wrote:
EEllis wrote:
Vol Texan wrote:
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
I bet he saw this as a good mentoring opportunity, and a way to develop a personal bond with a person with whom he may someday have another encounter. It sounded like good policing to me.
You bond with someone by lecturing them? Because I don't . Sure it's okay with most here because they might agree but what would be the response if it were an anti gun lecture? Different picture then huh? If the cop was just chatting then no problem. If he was indeed lecturing then I disagree with it. It's a personal choice to carry that he sure as heck shouldn't have to defend just because he got pulled over.

It's not like the nephew was being detained while given a lecture, I think you're taking it too far.

It's also possible that "lecture" wasn't the proper word to be used. To have a cop talk about the importance of the general public in helping them accomplish their mission is not at all a bad thing.
My nephew had a smile on his face when he used the word lecture so maybe it was more my nephew beating himself up for not carrying than it actually was lecturing by the LEO. Either way it had a positive effect on my nephew and may result in being a life saver for himself or some else in the future.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:56 pm
by trdvet
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:50 am
by EEllis
TVGuy wrote: It's not like the nephew was being detained while given a lecture, I think you're taking it too far.

It's also possible that "lecture" wasn't the proper word to be used. To have a cop talk about the importance of the general public in helping them accomplish their mission is not at all a bad thing.
It sounds like he was. I'm supposed to think and respond as if the OP meant something other than he actually said because why? Cop wants to shoot the bull and the other person wants to listen then fine. Cop decides to use a custodial stop to climb on a soapbox, not fine.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:52 am
by EEllis
trdvet wrote:
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
Never mind that isn't what I said or anything but a distortion for effect, what if the cops vested interests was anti gun?

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:29 am
by TVGuy
EEllis wrote:
trdvet wrote:
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
Never mind that isn't what I said or anything but a distortion for effect, what if the cops vested interests was anti gun?
But it wasn't. You can "what if" all day long.

It was a good encounter between a CHL citizen and a cop. Let's not make it out to be something more.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:27 am
by TXBO
EEllis wrote:
trdvet wrote:
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
Never mind that isn't what I said or anything but a distortion for effect, what if the cops vested interests was anti gun?
I'm sure the cop assumed that, since the gentleman had a CHL, he wasn't anti-gun. Nothing wrong with a little small take amongst two human beings with a common interest.

Re: Nephews encounter with LEO N. Dallas

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:36 pm
by jmra
TVGuy wrote:
EEllis wrote:
trdvet wrote:
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
Never mind that isn't what I said or anything but a distortion for effect, what if the cops vested interests was anti gun?
But it wasn't. You can "what if" all day long.

It was a good encounter between a CHL citizen and a cop. Let's not make it out to be something more.
:iagree: