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what if it's worn on a garter belt?

suthdj wrote:what if it's worn on a garter belt?

Let me know how that one goes.

What about an IWB holster uncovered? It is a belt holster but only the belt loops and the firearm sticking out above shows.

This could easily be mistaken as just tucked in the belt.

It just says it has to be a belt holster. Nothing about being attached to the belt. Just says you have to carry it in a belt holster right?

A prosecutor may tr to make a distinction between a belt holster and a paddle holster to secure a conviction.

I would expect a Bandelero holster to qualify with no problem as it's an across the shoulder holster with a belt.

OOH, parsing OC is so much fun!!

suthdj wrote:what if it's worn on a garter belt?

Then it is probably concealed and the holster requirement doesn't apply!!!

gljjt wrote:

suthdj wrote:what if it's worn on a garter belt?

Then it is probably concealed and the holster requirement doesn't apply!!!

although if you're at Walmart...

Jumping Frog wrote:

casp625 wrote:But does the law state that the belt or shoulder holster must be affixed to said belt or shoulders? Otherwise, I could have it in belt holster being strapped to my forearm, chest, leg, etc.

Yeah, but let's stay grounded in reality. In the real world, who attaches a belt holster to their forearm anyway?

I see some people attach their iPods/Phones/etc. to their forearm or upperarm when listening to music at the gym... maybe a phone on one arm and a handgun on the other for good measure?

Shoulder holster is fairly self-explanatory... but what about the guy who wants to wear a tac vest with an OC holster clipped on the front molle loops?

How about a dropleg that is properly worn high on the thigh... it has a strap that attaches to the belt... does that count?

I don't know about you, I would try either of these two in Hutto, San Angelo, Aubrey, or Dumas... but not in Houston, San Antonio, Austin, or Dallas.

AJSully421 wrote:Shoulder holster is fairly self-explanatory... but what about the guy who wants to wear a tac vest with an OC holster clipped on the front molle loops?

How about a dropleg that is properly worn high on the thigh... it has a strap that attaches to the belt... does that count?

I don't know about you, I would try either of these two in Hutto, San Angelo, Aubrey, or Dumas... but not in Houston, San Antonio, Austin, or Dallas.

Most of us don't live in a combat zone yet. No need to run around looking like soldiers.

jmra wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:Shoulder holster is fairly self-explanatory... but what about the guy who wants to wear a tac vest with an OC holster clipped on the front molle loops?

How about a dropleg that is properly worn high on the thigh... it has a strap that attaches to the belt... does that count?

I don't know about you, I would try either of these two in Hutto, San Angelo, Aubrey, or Dumas... but not in Houston, San Antonio, Austin, or Dallas.

Most of us don't live in a combat zone yet. No need to run around looking like soldiers.

Playing army or cop is not of interest to me.

jmra wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:Shoulder holster is fairly self-explanatory... but what about the guy who wants to wear a tac vest with an OC holster clipped on the front molle loops?

How about a dropleg that is properly worn high on the thigh... it has a strap that attaches to the belt... does that count?

I don't know about you, I would try either of these two in Hutto, San Angelo, Aubrey, or Dumas... but not in Houston, San Antonio, Austin, or Dallas.

Most of us don't live in a combat zone yet. No need to run around looking like soldiers.

Exactly!

mojo84 wrote:

jmra wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:Shoulder holster is fairly self-explanatory... but what about the guy who wants to wear a tac vest with an OC holster clipped on the front molle loops?

How about a dropleg that is properly worn high on the thigh... it has a strap that attaches to the belt... does that count?

I don't know about you, I would try either of these two in Hutto, San Angelo, Aubrey, or Dumas... but not in Houston, San Antonio, Austin, or Dallas.

Most of us don't live in a combat zone yet. No need to run around looking like soldiers.

Playing army or cop is not of interest to me.

Don't have to play. Been there, done that. I'm still getting used to how civilians live. My wife has been and continues to be my greatest asset in returning to civilization.

FWIW, my application of belt holster will be IWB for the first part of 2016, then a mix of IWB and OWB. I find this particular aspect of the law to be neither confusing nor unreasonably limiting.

casp625 wrote:But does the law state that the belt or shoulder holster must be affixed to said belt or shoulders? Otherwise, I could have it in belt holster being strapped to my forearm, chest, leg, etc.

Prior to this past weekend, I would have argued based on nothing more than WAGing that the law would state that said holster had to be on one's person, and that paddle holsters would probably be "grandfathered" in. But the person I spend the past weekend with is a CHL instructor who has stayed on top of the proceedings, and he says that the way the law is worded, there is no requirement for the holster to be on your person, and that therefore, after 1/1/16, a pistol in plain view on the passenger seat of your vehicle, but holstered IN a shoulder holster (for instance), would be perfectly legal for a CHL holder. But he ALSO said that he is waiting to hear from DPS for official confirmation of how this is to be enforced.

He also said that a paddle holster was not considered a belt holster since it doesn't directly affix to the belt.....even if it has a means of retention on the belt........but he also said that he was waiting to see exactly how DPS will address this. I own two paddle holsters (which I rarely use), but they both attach pretty positively to the belt/waistband, and if someone was able to get the holster off of my body, they would have long been able to first remove the gun from the holster.......so personally, I don't regard paddle holsters as being any more or less dangerous than any other type, IF properly seated. In fact, one of them is a cheap Fobus that Springfield sent me for free because I'm left handed and my XDM came with a right handed holster, and it is so difficult to draw the gun due to the natural retention of the design, that while it is plenty secure, I don't think I could draw fast enough from it to beat anyone else to the draw.