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Re: Proper Hotel Notification

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:37 am
by MONGOOSE
We were told it either had to be a 30.06 sign or a verbal notice.....all others were just to be used as TP.

Re: Proper Hotel Notification

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:09 am
by kopking10
:clapping: obviously making sure it's concealed. There are many people who aren't comfortable with seeing a gun. So, yes if no verbal notice then don't make a scene out of it by asking the hoteliers questions.

Re: Proper Hotel Notification

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:36 am
by thetexan
Yes.

The oral notification version of the 30.06 notification can be anything as long as it is from the owner or one with apparent authority to act for the owner. Basically the oral notification is a verbal expression of the owner's lack of consent.

The one you have to be careful of is the written notification on a card or document. In a hotel it might be printed on the registration form. But it must be "provided" to you according to the language of 30.06. I take that to mean a positive action rather than a passive action. For example, I read that to mean that simply leaving cards or written notices laying around at the registration desk, or at the foyer coffee table is not "providing" you notice. But I have never found case law where that was an issue. However, there are plenty of other cases where the use of the phrase "provides notice" (not dealing with guns, such as banking law, etc) can give us a glimpse into the legislature's understanding and intention in using the phrase.

tex

Re: Proper Hotel Notification

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:22 pm
by srothstein
kopking10 wrote:I just passed my CHL test last Friday. Our instructor mentioned that the owner or individual of a premise that has the authority can verbally "kick" you out even when there is no 30.06 sign being posted. Legally, the sign MUST
BE POSTED. However, my instructor said that they could still call the cop and get you arrested if the cop wanted. Then, the cop would tell you to explain to the judge about the 30.06 sign! It's crazy he said.

This is not correct. If any person with the apparent authority to act for the owner gives you oral notice, that is all that is required. The sign does NOT have to be present also. There is a difference now in the penalty for the offense, but it is higher for not leaving when told to and lower for just the sign. That still allows for the oral notice and no sign though.

Re: Proper Hotel Notification

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:33 pm
by kopking10
Are there a standard verbal notice? Or it could be simple no weapons allowed.

Re: Proper Hotel Notification

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:22 pm
by lfinsr
So how does HB333 that was passed in 2013 fit into the picture. Aren't they required to inform you of their policy before you make a reservation?

Re: Proper Hotel Notification

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:44 pm
by casp625
lfinsr wrote:So how does HB333 that was passed in 2013 fit into the picture. Aren't they required to inform you of their policy before you make a reservation?
Also, have third party sites been brought up to compliance as well?

Re: Proper Hotel Notification

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:45 pm
by Hot Dog Juice
Even if the hotel has a 30.06 sign posted, doesn't that only apply to common areas and not your room? Wouldn't they have to post a 30.06 sign on every door in the hotel?