Re: Smart Guns on 60 Minutes
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:28 am
Excuse me while I run to the Radio Shack for a new battery for my smart gun's Bluetooth radio ... oh? that store closed ... hmmm
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Right, given the scenario you are in a situation where you can either say why didn't I have a BUG or you could say why did I even have one.NotRPB wrote:Excuse me while I run to the Radio Shack for a new battery for my smart gun's Bluetooth radio ... oh? that store closed ... hmmm
I've replaced more electrical devices (sensors and what not) then mechanical parts on my cars in the last 10 years. My friends have had the same experience. Hard parts on cars are not failing as much as the electronics.dale blanker wrote:
In general mechanical problems are much more likely to fail than electronic component ones. Next time you drive your car think about what some little microprocessor is doing for you. Everything! Try finding a car that doesn't have one.
IOW, a difference without distinction, another step in making guns so cumbersome and ineffective for their purpose, and expensive, that no one will want to use them, another bite of the elephant, without infringement.The Annoyed Man wrote:Supposedly renders it unable to fire without being paired via BlueTooth or some similar technology to a bracelet, or key fob, or whatever they sell along with the gun. The bracelet/fob must be paired to the gun so that the gun can fire. So if your gun is stolen, it can't be fired because you have the "electronic key" that enables firing. Here's what I know. I wear a FitBit everyday. It will resist sweat, but not immersion. You can't wear it in the shower. Water fries it, rendering it ineffective, AND preventing it from communicating with the FitBit app on my mobile device. Now, imagine that the FitBit is the bracelet you have to wear to enable the gun, and you get robbed or assaulted during a heavy downpour, or thrown in a creek during an assault, or you simply accidentally whack the bracelet against a door frame as you walk through it. Imagine that it can then no longer pair with the gun, and the gun can therefore no longer be fired.JALLEN wrote:What is the claimed improvement, supposedly?
IF......and that is a BIG if....... somebody gets to mass-producing this kind of nonsense, the Secret Service's presidential detail should be required to be the first to beta-test it in an operational environment, before the testing program gets passed on to the Capitol police for further testing, BEFORE congress ever passes any legislation mandating this crap.
Exactly. And I would add this:JALLEN wrote:IOW, a difference without distinction, another step in making guns so cumbersome and ineffective for their purpose, and expensive, that no one will want to use them, another bite of the elephant, without infringement.The Annoyed Man wrote:Supposedly renders it unable to fire without being paired via BlueTooth or some similar technology to a bracelet, or key fob, or whatever they sell along with the gun. The bracelet/fob must be paired to the gun so that the gun can fire. So if your gun is stolen, it can't be fired because you have the "electronic key" that enables firing. Here's what I know. I wear a FitBit everyday. It will resist sweat, but not immersion. You can't wear it in the shower. Water fries it, rendering it ineffective, AND preventing it from communicating with the FitBit app on my mobile device. Now, imagine that the FitBit is the bracelet you have to wear to enable the gun, and you get robbed or assaulted during a heavy downpour, or thrown in a creek during an assault, or you simply accidentally whack the bracelet against a door frame as you walk through it. Imagine that it can then no longer pair with the gun, and the gun can therefore no longer be fired.JALLEN wrote:What is the claimed improvement, supposedly?
IF......and that is a BIG if....... somebody gets to mass-producing this kind of nonsense, the Secret Service's presidential detail should be required to be the first to beta-test it in an operational environment, before the testing program gets passed on to the Capitol police for further testing, BEFORE congress ever passes any legislation mandating this crap.
No, a battery replacement will not be needed so long as you turn the little crank every day. Oops, forgot to crank today... oh well, just call a timeout and start cranking.NotRPB wrote:Excuse me while I run to the Radio Shack for a new battery for my smart gun's Bluetooth radio ... oh? that store closed ... hmmm
The objection comes from a New Jersey law passed in 2002.It's not clear why there is strong objection having them for sale. Caveat Emptor?
While it's outside, too.jason812 wrote:Until my tv works in a storm, no way I would consider this.
Except it would not prevent someone from firing it as long as they were within range of your bracelet, and in your scenario they are likely to be within range still.dale blanker wrote:I'm wondering if a smart gun might be worthwhile for OC(?). Then if the OCer were overcome and their gun was grabbed, at least it could not be used against them. Better yet how about one that backfires if the owner was not firing it? (kidding)
Apparently the smart gun is mainly intended for those who are not comfortable with owning a gun. It's not clear why there is strong objection having them for sale. Caveat Emptor?