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Re: Gun trust

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:34 pm
by Glockster
Syntyr wrote:http://www.texasguntrust.com/
Here in Houston. Fellow gun enthusiast!
Same guy.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:42 pm
by Syntyr
Glockster wrote:
Syntyr wrote:http://www.texasguntrust.com/
Here in Houston. Fellow gun enthusiast!
Same guy.
I see that. I did not realize that was who that was.

Not trying to hijack thread but has anyone gotten CLEO sign off in Fort Bend County?

Thanks

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:05 am
by PBR
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Is Sean still charging $750 for a trust?

Chas.
I talked with him couple wks ago on maybe getting one cause I had a question on if it could affect disability. Then he told me $350 but since mentioned TexasCHLforum would do for $300, I'm pretty sure that is the prices he told me.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:14 am
by Rayden
I think $300 is fair. I'll consider all recommendations from this thread. :patriot:
PBR wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Is Sean still charging $750 for a trust?

Chas.
I talked with him couple wks ago on maybe getting one cause I had a question on if it could affect disability. Then he told me $350 but since mentioned TexasCHLforum would do for $300, I'm pretty sure that is the prices he told me.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:27 am
by PBR
Rayden wrote:I think $300 is fair. I'll consider all recommendations from this thread. :patriot:
You can contact him through email at SeanCody@HoustonAttorney.org he will usually get back with you that same day or next at latest.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:59 pm
by RSJ
Obviously some people have strong opinions on this. Mine is in line with what TAM said. When dealing with the feds, why not spend an extra $100-200 for a job that you know has a professional behind it, and accountable to you. I'm sure that SOME gun stores use attorneys and can even get questions answered when they arise. But for $100-200 more, you can meet with someone face-to-face, and know they are standing behind their work, and if not, they've got malpractice insurance and a state bar that will hold them accountable. That's all i'm saying. I am not financially interested in this, I work for YOU (the taxpayer), so the only trusts I've done are for friends/family for free.

I can say that I've got a copy of a legalzoom-ish trust that is poorly worded and is missing sections that most other trusts have. YMMV.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:16 pm
by FastCarry
As someone who is interested in a silencer and possibly an SBR, can someone explain "gun trust" in simple terms? Everything i read is that it "makes things easier" but I dont fully grasp what its for or how it helps.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:57 pm
by RSJ
FastCarry wrote:As someone who is interested in a silencer and possibly an SBR, can someone explain "gun trust" in simple terms? Everything i read is that it "makes things easier" but I dont fully grasp what its for or how it helps.
You would normally have to get a chief law enforcement officer's approval to get an SBR/can. A trust isn't a person, so a trust can acquire property such as SBRs and cans. You'd name yourself as trustee and be allowed to buy and sell trust property. Still requires a tax stamp and $200 fee for each item with a few $5 instances. It is pretty easy to go through the process after you know what you are doing. Also, you can put other people on the trust so they are not in technical violation of the law when they are using the item (especially when you aren't around). My trust is about 15 pages long and allows for several contingencies in case I died, get arrested, or am incapacitated so my family won't have to jump through legal hoops.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:23 pm
by winters
basically their is no such thing as a gun trust. its really called a living revocable trust. What I use my trust for is so multiple people can have possession of my silencers so i don't have to be around to baby sit them. And if something happens to me then others have legal access to posses them without risking going to jail over illegal possesion. getting around the police signing off is a mere positive side effect of it for me.

I would not go around saying you use your trust to get around the police sign off personally but thats me. The feds could see that as a reason to make it invalid.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:38 pm
by FastCarry
Thanks, that helps.

That brought me to another question that is touched above. Can a Trust for this purpose have multiple trustees? Could a friend or family member open a Trust together and use said Trust to purchase items separately?

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:37 pm
by winters
Can a Trust for this purpose have multiple trustees? yes just remember they all have to sign it.


Could a friend or family member open a Trust together and use said Trust to purchase items separately?

huh?I don't understand your question. The items belong to the trust not the individual. You have to understand a trust is a legal entity and not some piece of paper. So technically no one on the trust really owns the item; the trust owns the item.

Re: Gun trust

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:12 am
by Winchster
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
winters wrote:
RSJ wrote:As a lawyer I must say, some of what the gun shops are "selling" is crap. Would you trust your car mechanic for medical advice? Of course not. Gun shop staff doesn't equal lawyer. If I had more time, I'd report them all to the unauthorized practice of law committee.

Anyways, I would recommend an attorney. Sean Cody is probably the best in TX. He's in the Houston area IIRC.

yup you get what you pay for. I got mine through Sean Cody he is very well known firearms attorney. He also is a gun dealer with class 3 license last time i checked.I have even called him just to ask some questions after getting my trust so he also does some after sale support. He has a nice safe full of cool goodies if you visit him in person.

Ask Sean what he thinks about these gunshops and their trusts. He doesn't think highly of them.

Besides do you want to risk federal jail time over a few hundred dollars?
Is Sean still charging $750 for a trust?

Chas.
He did mine this year for $350. It lists my grandchildren as the beneficiaries