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LSUTiger wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:I think the buffer tube is the problem. It seems like the AR Pistol is a compromise to avoid the idiotic NFA regulations about SBR's. If you really want a pistol format 5.56 then the EXTAR above looks easier to handle. If you really want a SBR, then make or buy one.

I think the buffer tube is the saving grace for an AR Pistol in terms of shootability, it allows for a third point (hands and cheek) of contact when pretending it's a rifle.

Keep in mind IMHO, the AR pistol is best in the 12" barrel range for the closest rifle performance yet compactness. So I would never really expect to use it as a pistol and would use the buffer tube to steady with a cheek weld like a rifle.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:Instead of an AR15 pistol, I'm sort of jonesing for an EXTAR EXP556.



It weighs just over 4 lbs and is only 18 inches long. It has an 8.25" 1:9 barrel and no buffer tube.

It and an extra mag should fit in a large messenger bag.

Nice, but the charging handle is on the wrong side.

Rayden wrote:I have 2 stripped lower receivers that I bought a few years ago that had been sitting in storage till recently. I have purchased a 16" 5.56 rifle kit and it should be here tomorrow, which I plan to build a 16" with one of the lowers.

As for the other lower, I am interested in building a 300 BLK AR15 pistol with it. From the research that I've done, it seems it's perfectly ok for me to do so since the lower receiver were originally purchased as a stripped lower and had not have anything attached to it. I am deciding between 8.5" or 10.5" barrel. Sometimes in the future I do want a can to go with it. Any pros and cons given the purpose for not more than 200 yards shooting and mostly CQC? Suggestions?

dhoobler wrote:

Rayden wrote:I have 2 stripped lower receivers that I bought a few years ago that had been sitting in storage till recently. I have purchased a 16" 5.56 rifle kit and it should be here tomorrow, which I plan to build a 16" with one of the lowers.

As for the other lower, I am interested in building a 300 BLK AR15 pistol with it. From the research that I've done, it seems it's perfectly ok for me to do so since the lower receiver were originally purchased as a stripped lower and had not have anything attached to it. I am deciding between 8.5" or 10.5" barrel. Sometimes in the future I do want a can to go with it. Any pros and cons given the purpose for not more than 200 yards shooting and mostly CQC? Suggestions?

I am not a lawyer, but as I understand it, you might be building an SBR. If the stripped lower was sold as a rifle, you cannot turn it into a pistol. If you put a barrel shorter than 16 inches on a rifle receiver, you have an SBR. It depends on how the dealer recorded the sale.

I agree it is bull, but when dealing with the ATF, I don't assume.

ScottDLS wrote:

LSUTiger wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:I think the buffer tube is the problem. It seems like the AR Pistol is a compromise to avoid the idiotic NFA regulations about SBR's. If you really want a pistol format 5.56 then the EXTAR above looks easier to handle. If you really want a SBR, then make or buy one.

I think the buffer tube is the saving grace for an AR Pistol in terms of shootability, it allows for a third point (hands and cheek) of contact when pretending it's a rifle.

Keep in mind IMHO, the AR pistol is best in the 12" barrel range for the closest rifle performance yet compactness. So I would never really expect to use it as a pistol and would use the buffer tube to steady with a cheek weld like a rifle.

Why not add the stock then? It's just a bad compromise to avoid the NFA regs.

dhoobler wrote:

Rayden wrote:I have 2 stripped lower receivers that I bought a few years ago that had been sitting in storage till recently. I have purchased a 16" 5.56 rifle kit and it should be here tomorrow, which I plan to build a 16" with one of the lowers.

As for the other lower, I am interested in building a 300 BLK AR15 pistol with it. From the research that I've done, it seems it's perfectly ok for me to do so since the lower receiver were originally purchased as a stripped lower and had not have anything attached to it. I am deciding between 8.5" or 10.5" barrel. Sometimes in the future I do want a can to go with it. Any pros and cons given the purpose for not more than 200 yards shooting and mostly CQC? Suggestions?

I am not a lawyer, but as I understand it, you might be building an SBR. If the stripped lower was sold as a rifle, you cannot turn it into a pistol. If you put a barrel shorter than 16 inches on a rifle receiver, you have an SBR. It depends on how the dealer recorded the sale.

I agree it is bull, but when dealing with the ATF, I don't assume.

ScottDLS wrote:One thing about those "braces" on AR15 pistols. It may not be a good idea to build one that way. I beileve that the AR15 pistol makers that install "braces" have gone to ATF tech branch to get a ruling that they are not stocks. Otherwise ATF might just decide that a wrist brace is really a stock. One of the criteria for being a pistol and not a SBR is that the gun is "designed" to be able to be fired with one hand.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks that have AR-15 pistols need to remember that all laws applicable to handguns apply to those guns. That means it must be either concealed, or carried openly in a belt holster (good luck!) or a shoulder holster. A shoulder harness with the gun hanging on a lanyard may suffice as a shoulder holster.

In your car, remember to keep it concealed.

Chas.

carlson1 wrote:I have a Spikes Tactical 10.5" barrel that has the Blade Stabilizer on it. I carry it every time we travel with about 5 - 30 round magazines in the case. I set it in the back seat of the Suburban and it is a comfort to know it is setting there.