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parabelum wrote:I think Ted is a decent guy. He has no chance in general election however. Just my opinion.
Too many drones floating in the electorate these days.

By the way, fact that he retained his Canadian citizenship until just recently really irks me, as I renounced mine the second I was eligible for US citizenship.

For those who'd say "it doesn't bother me...", would you feel the same if he kept Iraqi or UAE citizenship while serving as your Texas Senator?

Anyways...all on the republican side are better then commie and the criminal.

You'll probably claim he was making excuses, but he said that he wasn't even aware he had Canadian citizenship until it was pointed out to him. He was born in Canada are received citizenship by birth. If his parents never discussed the subject with him, how would he know about it? They moved back to Houston when he was four, so I doubt they would have discussed citizenship with him that early. Once they moved back home, why would the subject come up?

It's entirely plausible to me that he's telling the truth.

baldeagle wrote:

parabelum wrote:I think Ted is a decent guy. He has no chance in general election however. Just my opinion.
Too many drones floating in the electorate these days.

By the way, fact that he retained his Canadian citizenship until just recently really irks me, as I renounced mine the second I was eligible for US citizenship.

For those who'd say "it doesn't bother me...", would you feel the same if he kept Iraqi or UAE citizenship while serving as your Texas Senator?

Anyways...all on the republican side are better then commie and the criminal.

You'll probably claim he was making excuses, but he said that he wasn't even aware he had Canadian citizenship until it was pointed out to him. He was born in Canada are received citizenship by birth. If his parents never discussed the subject with him, how would he know about it? They moved back to Houston when he was four, so I doubt they would have discussed citizenship with him that early. Once they moved back home, why would the subject come up?

It's entirely plausible to me that he's telling the truth.

I agree with this. He had dual citizenship. Now, if he was only a citizen of Canada, Bosnia or some other country and came here as a teenager or after, then just recently denounced his Canadian citizenship to become an American Citizen, I would be more concerned about this. Then again, he wouldn't have gotten this far in the race if that was the case.

I think we need to get away from nitpicking every little thing about a candidate as no one is 100% perfect for everyone. We need to focus on where they stand and have stood on the serious issues that will effect us as free American liberty minded citizens.

parabelum wrote:

dale blanker wrote: Mitt or Sarah, where are you when we need you?

Mitt is busy bashing Trump these days. Sarah actually endorsed Trump, so, DT was good enough for her.

I've said before and I'll say it again; ANY person on the elephant side is better then commie or the criminal.
In the general election, DT has the highest chances of winning, incidentally.

I've heard a lot of people say that, but the facts don't back it up.

Five Thirty Eight is one of the best sites I've ever found for discussing statistical analysis. They show that Trump has almost zero chance of winning.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/why- ... one-chart/

To give you an idea of his chances, he is more hated, nationally, than Al Sharpton. Think Sharpton could ever get elected?

Gallup says he has the highest unfavorability rating of any Presidential candidate ever.

https://www.conservativereview.com/comm ... r-recorded

Trump will not win the general. 28% of REPUBLICANS say they will never vote for him. To give you an idea how bad it is, a poll of people regardless of party affiliation found that Trump was by far the least liked candidate in the general election. Taking into account Republicans, Independents and Democrats, Trump scored a MINUS 70. Cruz, by comparison, scores a PLUS 11 and Carson scores a PLUS 26. Rubio has a PLUS 22.

Trump supporters keep saying that he will win in a landslide, but there is no evidence that is true and TONS of evidence that the opposite is true. They have gotten the false impression of Trump's electability because of his polls and wins. The fact is he loses to both Rubio and Cruz in head to head competition. IOW, he can't even win the GOP nomination in a one on one competition. If he can't do that, he's not going to beat Hillary.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll- ... le/2578095

If you really want to win in November and keep Hillary out of the White House, I would think long and hard about supporting Trump. He will lose.

Funny I didn't mention any of the other candidates in my original post. Didn't want this to be a pissing contest. Oh well. Too late. lol

Trump is getting people out because of his bloviating and abrasive rhetoric. That is attractive to a high percentage of people that are likely primary voters and caucus participants. The number and makeup of primary/caucus voters is far different than the makeup of those that vote in the general. I haven't seen the recent numbers but I bet only the most ardent and in tune folks are voting in the primaries and caucuses. Trump is playing to the emotional and it may work for the primaries but it won't work in the general election.

If he is the eventual nominee, I suspect he will become much more moderate and middle of the road in order to garner more democrat and moderate votes. Right now, he just doesn't need those as his anger filled vile and insults are working. He has already said on national TV at least a couple of times that he can change and be whatever he needs to be.

The Wall wrote:Funny I didn't mention any of the other candidates in my original post. Didn't want this to be a pissing contest. Oh well. Too late. lol

You didn't need to. Cruz and Trump are the only ones with a shot to win Texas. I don't need your prompting in order to discuss what I see going on.

Just being a Texan isn't enough. However, in my mind, the Texan is the right guy this time around and the NY billionaire middle school bully is not.

Cruz could definitely bring home the pork as President. That is worth a lot.

But my dream team is Trump as President (Hail Mary pass that if it doesn't work could be easily impeached), Cruz to replace Scalia, and Rubio as Vice President.

baldeagle wrote:

parabelum wrote:

dale blanker wrote: Mitt or Sarah, where are you when we need you?

Mitt is busy bashing Trump these days. Sarah actually endorsed Trump, so, DT was good enough for her.

I've said before and I'll say it again; ANY person on the elephant side is better then commie or the criminal.
In the general election, DT has the highest chances of winning, incidentally.

I've heard a lot of people say that, but the facts don't back it up.

Five Thirty Eight is one of the best sites I've ever found for discussing statistical analysis. They show that Trump has almost zero chance of winning.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/why- ... one-chart/

To give you an idea of his chances, he is more hated, nationally, than Al Sharpton. Think Sharpton could ever get elected?

Gallup says he has the highest unfavorability rating of any Presidential candidate ever.

https://www.conservativereview.com/comm ... r-recorded

Trump will not win the general. 28% of REPUBLICANS say they will never vote for him. To give you an idea how bad it is, a poll of people regardless of party affiliation found that Trump was by far the least liked candidate in the general election. Taking into account Republicans, Independents and Democrats, Trump scored a MINUS 70. Cruz, by comparison, scores a PLUS 11 and Carson scores a PLUS 26. Rubio has a PLUS 22.

Trump supporters keep saying that he will win in a landslide, but there is no evidence that is true and TONS of evidence that the opposite is true. They have gotten the false impression of Trump's electability because of his polls and wins. The fact is he loses to both Rubio and Cruz in head to head competition. IOW, he can't even win the GOP nomination in a one on one competition. If he can't do that, he's not going to beat Hillary.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll- ... le/2578095

If you really want to win in November and keep Hillary out of the White House, I would think long and hard about supporting Trump. He will lose.

I don't know, many polls had written Trump off right from the starting gate, people mocked him etc, but he held his ground and remained strong.
And the tide is shifting rapidly in favor of Trump. I expect his momentum to rapidly accelerate after next week.
We shall see however...

May the best win, if that happens to be Cruz, of course I'll support him. But we shall see....

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/24/politics/ ... index.html

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/24/polit ... 97-and-99/

Trump should not have a R by his name on any ballot. How and Why supposed conservatives are voting for him just boggles my mind. I can't find it on youtube and iheart is blocked at work - but if you google 'Michael Berry makes the case for Ted Cruz' there is a nice little snippet where I feel like Michael laid out the strongest and most elegant case against Trump that I've heard anyone make.

Is Cruz a perfect man ? a perfect politician ? Will you agree with his points of view 100% ? No - but very few political candidates ever will. What he is though, is a strong constitutional conservative with a proven record and someone who mirrors Texas's views and believes. I think that is worth voting for.

Hit the polls this morning and cast my vote for Ted Cruz. And that was before Christie endorsed Trump, which caused me to vomit in my mouth. Trump and Christie deserve each other, they can alternate visits to their buddy Hillary in the federal penitentiary come this time next year.

parabelum wrote:

mojo84 wrote:One of the problems with Trump and his positions is the fact he didn't take his current positions until he started contemplating a run for president about five years ago and realized his best chance would be on the republican ticket. He is a campaign conservative republican.

Why do people not realize he is just another RINO? Until recently he was pro abortion, wanted limits on what guns citizens could own, for the individual mandate, espoused government paid health insurance, thinks he can tax and tariff businesses back to the U.S., use imminent domain for private profit and supported progressive democrats in helping them win elected office.

I think spring Trump is just another case of one cutting their noise of to spite their face as he is capitalizing on conservatives' justified anger.


Here is just one example of Trump changing his position to fit his agenda.

Check out @tedcruz's Tweet: https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/7030 ... 76577?s=09

Yes, Trump used eminent domain for his business. And you know who else did? That's right, Bush family.

I didn't say you'll get 100% with DT. I said 60%.

But again, 60% of something we value is better then 100% of Marxism, which is what you'll get if you don't vote for Trump, as Cruz or Rubio are not winning the GE.

I'll take this topic on again after next Tuesday, where I'll either concede that I'm wrong with respect to their electability, or echo Trump's victory.

Why would you believe a work Trump says? Have you researched him, or just listened to his sound bites. Both Rubio and Cruz beat Clinton by 9 points in the latest polls. Trump wins by only 3 points. Trump will energize every Democrat like you have never seen.

Chas.

I think the democrats are hoping Trump is the republican nominee. He's their best alternative to Hillary.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

parabelum wrote:

mojo84 wrote:One of the problems with Trump and his positions is the fact he didn't take his current positions until he started contemplating a run for president about five years ago and realized his best chance would be on the republican ticket. He is a campaign conservative republican.

Why do people not realize he is just another RINO? Until recently he was pro abortion, wanted limits on what guns citizens could own, for the individual mandate, espoused government paid health insurance, thinks he can tax and tariff businesses back to the U.S., use imminent domain for private profit and supported progressive democrats in helping them win elected office.

I think spring Trump is just another case of one cutting their noise of to spite their face as he is capitalizing on conservatives' justified anger.


Here is just one example of Trump changing his position to fit his agenda.

Check out @tedcruz's Tweet: https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/7030 ... 76577?s=09

Yes, Trump used eminent domain for his business. And you know who else did? That's right, Bush family.

I didn't say you'll get 100% with DT. I said 60%.

But again, 60% of something we value is better then 100% of Marxism, which is what you'll get if you don't vote for Trump, as Cruz or Rubio are not winning the GE.

I'll take this topic on again after next Tuesday, where I'll either concede that I'm wrong with respect to their electability, or echo Trump's victory.

Why would you believe a work Trump says? Have you researched him, or just listened to his sound bites. Both Rubio and Cruz beat Clinton by 9 points in the latest polls. Trump wins by only 3 points. Trump will energize every Democrat like you have never seen.

Chas.

I think you know that I'm very skeptical and cynical person Charles. It is not something that I'm proud of, but that's who I am.

I trust nobody and nothing except for my Lord and the scripture.

I don't listen to sound bytes only, although there are sound bytes of Trump at NRA-ILA Leadership Forum, Trump at the border, Trump taking on Immigration issues with very specific solutions, Trump on 2A issues with great specificity, Trump on backing our Veterans and LE, Trump outlining specific details on destroying ISIS etc. etc.

Jerry Fawell Jr. says he is good enough for him.
Palin endorsed him.
Sheriff Joe, one of the toughest immigration Sherrifs we have, endorsed Trump...

Now, I challenge anyone to look at the Millions this man gave to Veteran groups, Churches, special needs children and their families, the fortune he spent in the 70's rebuilding dilapidated parts of NYC that were overrun by gangs and crime and he turned those neighborhoods into affordable units for middle class Americans, cleaning the streets. This was before it was fashionable to build in NYC.

By the way, as an attorney, think of the roadblocks in place to build , successfully, in a place like NYC some of the nicest buildings.

Requires diplomacy, sound judgement, savvy negotiations skills, tremendous work ethic. This man is not perfect but he is a leader.

As far as his conservatism, look, I know he is not a 100%'er, BUT, he is a strong Nationalist who will rebuild our broken country that this monster in the WH has crippled. He will Make America Great Again!

You know what drives me, as a generation 0 American, with one foot in the old world and one in the new world? Knowing that the greatest country on the face of the earth, the United States of America, will be great again.
We will NOT be denigrated by other Nations, no longer will there be business as usual. The jig is up.
Trump is in and the house will be cleaned.

Now, let the history be the judge henceforth, as I'm only one man who wants my Country back.

After Tuesday, we shall see.

Regardless, if Trump isn't our nominee, I will support whoever we have , I'll even hold my nose for Rubio.

I hope for sake of our Nation, you folks who support Cruz will do the same.

parabelum wrote:
I think you know that I'm very skeptical and cynical person Charles. It is not something that I'm proud of, but that's who I am.

I trust nobody and nothing except for my Lord and the scripture.

I don't listen to sound bytes only, although there are sound bytes of Trump at NRA-ILA Leadership Forum, Trump at the border, Trump taking on Immigration issues with very specific solutions, Trump on 2A issues with great specificity, Trump on backing our Veterans and LE, Trump outlining specific details on destroying ISIS etc. etc.

Would you mind providing some of those? Because I'm not aware of any specificity on any issue Trump has raised except build a wall that Mexico pays for without explaining HOW he'll get Mexico to pay for it. I haven't heard him say anything about 2A except he's better than everyone else on 2A (which is his standard line for everything) and it wasn't that long ago that he supported an "assault weapons" ban.

parabelum wrote:Now, I challenge anyone to look at the Millions this man gave to Veteran groups, Churches, special needs children and their families, the fortune he spent in the 70's rebuilding dilapidated parts of NYC that were overrun by gangs and crime and he turned those neighborhoods into affordable units for middle class Americans, cleaning the streets. This was before it was fashionable to build in NYC.

Where do you get this information? It's my understanding that Trump never donated to veteran groups until his stunt in Iowa, and only three veteran groups have received any funds at all ($100,000 each) from the $6 million he supposedly raised.

The Trump you describe is not the one that I'm familiar with, and I have done a lot of research.