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Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:00 pm
by mr1337
Lynyrd wrote:The "passerby" fired three shots while the BG was on top of the deputy. I'm confident in my shooting, but.....
And now there's a video on the news article criticizing the CCW license holder on the number of shots he fired. "Were 3 shots necessary?"

You shoot to stop the threat. If the threat isn't stopped, you don't stop shooting. They should be praising the man for acting swiftly and courageously to save the deputy's life.

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:10 pm
by Jusme
mr1337 wrote:
Lynyrd wrote:The "passerby" fired three shots while the BG was on top of the deputy. I'm confident in my shooting, but.....
And now there's a video on the news article criticizing the CCW license holder on the number of shots he fired. "Were 3 shots necessary?"

You shoot to stop the threat. If the threat isn't stopped, you don't stop shooting. They should be praising the man for acting swiftly and courageously to save the deputy's life.

Typical left wing rhetoric. No facts regarding anything other than the number of shots fired and they have already decided it was "overkill"
They can't stand the fact that a GG with a gun stopped a BG with a gun.

The guy ought to be invited to Trump's inauguration.

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:17 pm
by Lynyrd
They should have asked the deputy if 3 shots was okay. I read one article where a witnessed quoted the deputy as yelling at the GG, "Shoot him! Shoot him!"

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:16 pm
by SigM4
Couple of updates:

1) Cop was white, bad guy was black, CC'r was black. News story
2) Sheriff praised the CC'r and even went so far as to reach out to a LGS to get him a new firearm since his is in the evidence locker. See Sheriff's comments on Facebook here. (Quoted below)

A note from Sheriff Mike Scott:

Earlier this week, two heroes met on I-75 and while they had never met before, one would save the others life. I was at the hospital when the ambulance arrived, the rear doors opened, and my Deputy Dean Bardes was unloaded on a stretcher. Bloody from a vicious attack by a driver Bardes had stopped for endangering the lives of other innocent citizens in our community, the Medics wheeled him into a treatment room. Joined by others from our team, I was there when his wife and family arrived with fear and concern for their loved one as the E.R. team worked on him. Ironically, this was the first day in a while that Deputy Bardes was alone on patrol because as a Field Training Officer, he typically has a recruit riding with him to learn the business. A business that has seen an increasingly alarming rise in attacks and killings perpetrated on cops. A business that has fallen victim to false narratives like Ferguson where the good guys have been painted as the bad guys by a vocal minority that refuses to allow facts and evidence to get in their way. A business that is the last line of defense between good and evil.

On behalf of the men and women of the LCSO, I thank Deputy Dean Bardes for his bravery and pray for a full recovery. I thank the E.R. staff and E.M.S. for their immediate attention to Dean, and I thank the many witnesses to this event who stopped to assist our Detectives. I thank my good friends at “Shoot Straight” who realized that the hero’s gun was taken as evidence and immediately gave him a brand new firearm. Above all, I thank the hero that recognized the imminent threat, rushed to Deputy Bardes’ aid, and ultimately stopped that threat. In a day and age where race is a near instant focus for media and other pundits in police incidents, the fact is that this hero happens to be a man of color who stopped another man of color from further harming or killing a white cop; thereby reminding us that black lives matter, blue lives matter, and indeed all life matters. We at your Sheriff’s Office remain proud to serve and focused on the mission.

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:35 am
by Middle Age Russ
:thumbs2:
EXCELLENT statement from the Sherriff's Office!

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:35 am
by txglock21
SigM4 wrote:Couple of updates:

1) Cop was white, bad guy was black, CC'r was black. News story
2) Sheriff praised the CC'r and even went so far as to reach out to a LGS to get him a new firearm since his is in the evidence locker. See Sheriff's comments on Facebook here. (Quoted below)

A note from Sheriff Mike Scott:

Earlier this week, two heroes met on I-75 and while they had never met before, one would save the others life. I was at the hospital when the ambulance arrived, the rear doors opened, and my Deputy Dean Bardes was unloaded on a stretcher. Bloody from a vicious attack by a driver Bardes had stopped for endangering the lives of other innocent citizens in our community, the Medics wheeled him into a treatment room. Joined by others from our team, I was there when his wife and family arrived with fear and concern for their loved one as the E.R. team worked on him. Ironically, this was the first day in a while that Deputy Bardes was alone on patrol because as a Field Training Officer, he typically has a recruit riding with him to learn the business. A business that has seen an increasingly alarming rise in attacks and killings perpetrated on cops. A business that has fallen victim to false narratives like Ferguson where the good guys have been painted as the bad guys by a vocal minority that refuses to allow facts and evidence to get in their way. A business that is the last line of defense between good and evil.

On behalf of the men and women of the LCSO, I thank Deputy Dean Bardes for his bravery and pray for a full recovery. I thank the E.R. staff and E.M.S. for their immediate attention to Dean, and I thank the many witnesses to this event who stopped to assist our Detectives. I thank my good friends at “Shoot Straight” who realized that the hero’s gun was taken as evidence and immediately gave him a brand new firearm. Above all, I thank the hero that recognized the imminent threat, rushed to Deputy Bardes’ aid, and ultimately stopped that threat. In a day and age where race is a near instant focus for media and other pundits in police incidents, the fact is that this hero happens to be a man of color who stopped another man of color from further harming or killing a white cop; thereby reminding us that black lives matter, blue lives matter, and indeed all life matters. We at your Sheriff’s Office remain proud to serve and focused on the mission.
Awesome statement from the sheriff and prayers to both the hero's! :tiphat:

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:39 am
by Jusme
Middle Age Russ wrote::thumbs2:
EXCELLENT statement from the Sherriff's Office!

:iagree:

Along with Kudos to "Shoot Straight" for making sure the GG wasn't left unarmed.

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:39 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
The owner of "Shoot Straight Firearms" LGS knew that the GG's gun was taken
in evidence, and he offered the GG his choice of handgun for free.

The GG's choice in handgun was a Springfield Armory XDS (eXtreme Duty Single stack).
No further description in the news item as to whether it was 9MM or .45; 3.3" or 4.0" barrel.

SIA

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:25 am
by Dadtodabone
The "bad guy" had retired in 2007 after 21 years as a corrections officer with the Connecticut Dept. Of Corrections.

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:12 pm
by RHenriksen
Dadtodabone wrote:The "bad guy" had retired in 2007 after 21 years as a corrections officer with the Connecticut Dept. Of Corrections.
Now that's a very odd twist to this story.

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:59 pm
by NotRPB
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:The owner of "Shoot Straight Firearms" LGS knew that the GG's gun was taken
in evidence, and he offered the GG his choice of handgun for free.

The GG's choice in handgun was a Springfield Armory XDS (eXtreme Duty Single stack).
No further description in the news item as to whether it was 9MM or .45; 3.3" or 4.0" barrel.

SIA
http://freedomdaily.com/hero-killed-thu ... um=twitter
The citizen’s gun was seized in the course of the investigation, and it’s not likely that he will get it back. But people appreciated his courage and willingness to do the right thing, no matter what it might cost him. But Shoot Straight gun store owner Mark Williams called Bardes’ department and asked if he could do something for the citizen in return.

Three days after saving Bardes’ life, the citizen was invited to the gun store and told he could choose any concealed carry weapon that he wanted. He ended up choosing a Springfield XDS, and can continue to keep himself — and his community — safe.

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:04 pm
by Wallace Dunn
uthornsfan wrote:Philosophical question here.

Lets say the rolls are reversed. You pull up and a cop is wailing on a civilian. Has his baton out and is just pulverizing someone. They are on the ground, defenseless. What do you do?
Man, I understand your question and where you're coming from, but it's really REALLY sad that you have to ask that question. I agree with the poster that said videotape and call 911.

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:01 am
by mojo84

Re: Florida CHL Holder kills suspect fighting deputy

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:22 am
by Keith B
Here is the latest update http://www.khq.com/story/34893285/flori ... -justified Other topic locked as duplicate