Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:43 pm
Can they legally tell you to turn off your camera? I don't think that's legal.When the cops showed up a few minutes later one of them saw me with a camera, told me to turn it off
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Can they legally tell you to turn off your camera? I don't think that's legal.When the cops showed up a few minutes later one of them saw me with a camera, told me to turn it off
srothstein wrote:I agree with HV that it is one of those "You might beat the rap but you won't beat the ride" situations.
But in all three cases mentioned, I would strongly recommend calling the agency and filing a complaint. Police have no right to be bullies and should not be allowed to get away with it. If there is more to the story (and I am sure the officers would give a different version), let the IA investigator find it out and determine the truth.
The only way we can get better cops is if the people who get abused file complaints on the bad ones and send letters of commendation when they get a good one who goes beyond what is required.
I agree too, but trust me on this one: If I had asked a name and badge number in a couple of instances, which a well deserved complaint needed to be filed...I would have taken a ride myself. It just wasn't worth it. I watched people being arrested for asking (politely, I might add) what was going on with their friend (who was being arrested) and stuff like that. This one night in Deep Ellum it was ON with the police. They were in a tizzy. The guy next to me said something to the cop that it wasn't right what they were doing. He was right... and not being rude in any way. The cop looked at him and told him he was next to go to jail if he didn't shut up. "You want to go to jail boy!" Friend says no..."then keep your mouth shut!" True story, as I saw this first hand. That's not the only story either...I have a few others.flintknapper wrote:srothstein wrote:I agree with HV that it is one of those "You might beat the rap but you won't beat the ride" situations.
But in all three cases mentioned, I would strongly recommend calling the agency and filing a complaint. Police have no right to be bullies and should not be allowed to get away with it. If there is more to the story (and I am sure the officers would give a different version), let the IA investigator find it out and determine the truth.
The only way we can get better cops is if the people who get abused file complaints on the bad ones and send letters of commendation when they get a good one who goes beyond what is required.
I couldn't agree more.... (on both accounts).
I understand the story and know of similar instances. There was a study done by one news company where they had someone go up to various officers and just ask them how to file a complaint. In about a fair number of the sample, the reporter ended up arrested when he would not give his name. The good news was about half the time, the reporter got the information without any problem. The bad news was it was only half the time.govnor wrote:I agree too, but trust me on this one: If I had asked a name and badge number in a couple of instances, which a well deserved complaint needed to be filed...I would have taken a ride myself. It just wasn't worth it. I watched people being arrested for asking (politely, I might add) what was going on with their friend (who was being arrested) and stuff like that. This one night in Deep Ellum it was ON with the police. They were in a tizzy. The guy next to me said something to the cop that it wasn't right what they were doing. He was right... and not being rude in any way. The cop looked at him and told him he was next to go to jail if he didn't shut up. "You want to go to jail boy!" Friend says no..."then keep your mouth shut!" True story, as I saw this first hand. That's not the only story either...I have a few others.
I always send a letter to the department of the officer I get into a conflict with no matter how good or bad it was. Note that this is for a conflict, not cops who I have convos or anything like that. I've written three letters that I thought shined a pretty good light on the officer. In two of these three I had received a ticket. I sent four neutral ones which all involved an officer checking me out for whatever reason. And I've sent four negative ones, unfortunately in two of them I didn't have any names to offer. Just time, location, and events. In all of them I considered professionalism, attitude, and personal feelings based on their actions. At the end of each letter I attach the name, agency, and its number of all the other reviews I've done so they can check if they want to see that I am unbiased.srothstein wrote:I agree with HV that it is one of those "You might beat the rap but you won't beat the ride" situations.
But in all three cases mentioned, I would strongly recommend calling the agency and filing a complaint. Police have no right to be bullies and should not be allowed to get away with it. If there is more to the story (and I am sure the officers would give a different version), let the IA investigator find it out and determine the truth.
The only way we can get better cops is if the people who get abused file complaints on the bad ones and send letters of commendation when they get a good one who goes beyond what is required.