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Re: Dallas Swat kills suspect carrying “assault rifle”

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm
by Mike S
montgomery wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:44 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:01 pm I think having a weapon in hand while trying to escape is going to qualify the dead guy as a legitimate target. I suppose we shall see.
What was the crime or probable cause? Running while legally possessing a long gun?
From reading the linked article, I'd guess the probable cause for the warrant that was issued was the vehicle had been involved with a murder of a cafe employee in Dallas during a robbery that same night. The probable cause to arrest the guy with the rifle likely would be him exiting that same vehicle, that had been under surveillance while waiting for the warrant after the murder of a cafe employee, and exiting/running away from the vehicle with a long gun to avoid arrest.

Re: Dallas Swat kills suspect carrying “assault rifle”

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:29 pm
by narcissist
montgomery wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:44 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:01 pm I think having a weapon in hand while trying to escape is going to qualify the dead guy as a legitimate target. I suppose we shall see.
What was the crime or probable cause? Running while legally possessing a long gun?
It's possible they might "add" additional charges they seam fit but then again who knows?

Re: Dallas Swat kills suspect carrying “assault rifle”

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:08 pm
by montgomery
Mike S wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm
montgomery wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:44 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:01 pm I think having a weapon in hand while trying to escape is going to qualify the dead guy as a legitimate target. I suppose we shall see.
What was the crime or probable cause? Running while legally possessing a long gun?
From reading the linked article, I'd guess the probable cause for the warrant that was issued was the vehicle had been involved with a murder of a cafe employee in Dallas during a robbery that same night. The probable cause to arrest the guy with the rifle likely would be him exiting that same vehicle, that had been under surveillance while waiting for the warrant after the murder of a cafe employee, and exiting/running away from the vehicle with a long gun to avoid arrest.
I was responding to a general comment not this specific case ...

Re: Dallas Swat kills suspect carrying “assault rifle”

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:22 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
montgomery wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:08 pm
Mike S wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm
montgomery wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:44 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:01 pm I think having a weapon in hand while trying to escape is going to qualify the dead guy as a legitimate target. I suppose we shall see.
What was the crime or probable cause? Running while legally possessing a long gun?
From reading the linked article, I'd guess the probable cause for the warrant that was issued was the vehicle had been involved with a murder of a cafe employee in Dallas during a robbery that same night. The probable cause to arrest the guy with the rifle likely would be him exiting that same vehicle, that had been under surveillance while waiting for the warrant after the murder of a cafe employee, and exiting/running away from the vehicle with a long gun to avoid arrest.
I was responding to a general comment not this specific case ...
In any and all cases if an officer of the law tells you to stop, you by golly have to stop. If you are carrying a rifle while refusing to be detained, you might just become a legitimate target. They absolutely have the authority to detain a person. If you feel they have wronged you by said detention, take it to court. I cannot imagine the police allowing an armed person that is evading arrest to get away and possibly kill an innocent person. This is not London yet.

Re: Dallas Swat kills suspect carrying “assault rifle”

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:33 pm
by warnmar10
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:46 pmEvading a legal temporary detention by law enforcement, just to start.

Chas.
Did we read the same article?
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Police-Investigate-Officer-Involved-Shooting-in-Far-Northeast-Dallas-561410041.html wrote:As officers were watching the vehicle, homicide detectives were obtaining a warrant and notified SWAT. When SWAT officers approached the vehicle, several people inside the vehicle tried to run away.
I am programmed and predisposed to taking the side of cops in situations like this but cops no longer enjoy the presumption of doing the right thing from me.

It is possible an officer murdered a deserving dirt bag. Even if true, and internal investigation will almost certainly clear the officer of any wrongdoing.

Re: Dallas Swat kills suspect carrying “assault rifle”

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:30 pm
by Ameer
gtolbert09 wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:28 pm https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Polic ... 10041.html
One man among the group of suspects running away from the vehicle was shot by a SWAT officer, police said. The man had been armed with an assault rifle when he was shot.
Did he have a tax stamp? "rlol"