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Re: AL: Clerk with own gun runs off armed robbers

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:07 pm
by Lynyrd
WTR wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:42 pm
RSX11 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:00 pm
In very extreme intense situations my brain seams to slow down time and automatically know what to do, yeah im sure most of you are saying "bull" but it's the truth.
I don't doubt that you experience the sensations, but research shows that it's an illusion - it doesn't enable you to make more or faster decisions.

https://www.livescience.com/2117-time-s ... ncies.html
You may be correct. However, to cite this uncited non peer reviewed study is laughable.
I too have experience the feeling that time slowed down. During a car wreck, or while taking a difficult running shot, or some other intense experience. I don't know if my decisions were better, but they would be instantaneous without thinking. Gut instincts if you will. Afterwards, I could recall details with clarity that happened incredibly fast and it gave me the sense of time slowing down.

This article supports the theory of enhanced memory during such times.

https://www.livescience.com/2117-time-s ... ncies.html

Re: AL: Clerk with own gun runs off armed robbers

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:15 pm
by anygunanywhere
flintknapper wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:59 pm WTR wrote:
I read an FBI statistic which stated that when confronted with a handgun you have a 74% chance of not being hit if you just simply run.
Dang..those are pretty good odds. In addition to my regular firearms practice, I'm going to dedicate some time to running in a 'serpentine fashion'. Couldn't hurt, right. Good exercise as well. ;-)

Warning - some language.
https://youtu.be/A2_w-QCWpS0

Re: AL: Clerk with own gun runs off armed robbers

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:17 pm
by WTR
flintknapper wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:59 pm WTR wrote:
I read an FBI statistic which stated that when confronted with a handgun you have a 74% chance of not being hit if you just simply run.
Dang..those are pretty good odds. In addition to my regular firearms practice, I'm going to dedicate some time to running in a 'serpentine fashion'. Couldn't hurt, right. Good exercise as well. ;-)

Get your cardio! :lol:
Unfortunately, I only run in my dreams these days. You better bet I will be armed and throwing lead.

Re: AL: Clerk with own gun runs off armed robbers

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:41 pm
by Mike S
WTR wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:42 pm
RSX11 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:00 pm
In very extreme intense situations my brain seams to slow down time and automatically know what to do, yeah im sure most of you are saying "bull" but it's the truth.
I don't doubt that you experience the sensations, but research shows that it's an illusion - it doesn't enable you to make more or faster decisions.

https://www.livescience.com/2117-time-s ... ncies.html
You may be correct. However, to cite this uncited non peer reviewed study is laughable.
RSX11's linked article is based on this peer reviewed study:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/searc ... ls=PLoSONE

There's lots more peer reviewed research here on memory, perception, & whatever else scientific one desires to study:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/searc ... ory&page=1

Force Science Institute is another source of info regarding physically/psychological effects of stress, specifically it's impact on perception & decision making in defensive encounters.

https://www.forcescience.org/research/

Re: AL: Clerk with own gun runs off armed robbers

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:16 pm
by Soccerdad1995
03Lightningrocks wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:36 pm
Mel wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:32 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:41 pm
ELB wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:35 pm Just the link under the video. I don't know that the clerk fired "blindly" but I don't believe he hit either of the robbers.
Some folks don't understand how easy it is to miss when firing at someone with a handgun. Especially a moving target. Many times we hear of multiple shots being fired and only one shot hitting the the target. I chalk it up to TV and Movies where every shot is a dead on center of forehead hit.
Only for the Good guys. The bad guys fire off hundreds of rounds from fully-semi automatics and never hit the Good guys.
And they often have self refilling magazines cause they never run out of bullets... :biggrinjester:
Don't forget the Claymore mines and hand grenades that can demolish a skyscraper!

Re: AL: Clerk with own gun runs off armed robbers

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:23 pm
by WTR
Mike S wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:41 pm
WTR wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:42 pm
RSX11 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:00 pm
In very extreme intense situations my brain seams to slow down time and automatically know what to do, yeah im sure most of you are saying "bull" but it's the truth.
I don't doubt that you experience the sensations, but research shows that it's an illusion - it doesn't enable you to make more or faster decisions.

https://www.livescience.com/2117-time-s ... ncies.html
You may be correct. However, to cite this uncited non peer reviewed study is laughable.
RSX11's linked article is based on this peer reviewed study:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/searc ... ls=PLoSONE

There's lots more peer reviewed research here on memory, perception, & whatever else scientific one desires to study:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/searc ... ory&page=1

Force Science Institute is another source of info regarding physically/psychological effects of stress, specifically it's impact on perception & decision making in defensive encounters.

https://www.forcescience.org/research/
As I said, you may be correct with your accretions. However, you really need to be careful relying on fluff journals. As an example your journal has an impact factor of 2.7 compared to the NEJM with a 79 plus factor.

Re: AL: Clerk with own gun runs off armed robbers

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:26 pm
by WTR
Mike S wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:41 pm
WTR wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:42 pm
RSX11 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:00 pm
In very extreme intense situations my brain seams to slow down time and automatically know what to do, yeah im sure most of you are saying "bull" but it's the truth.
I don't doubt that you experience the sensations, but research shows that it's an illusion - it doesn't enable you to make more or faster decisions.

https://www.livescience.com/2117-time-s ... ncies.html
You may be correct. However, to cite this uncited non peer reviewed study is laughable.
RSX11's linked article is based on this peer reviewed study:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/searc ... ls=PLoSONE

There's lots more peer reviewed research here on memory, perception, & whatever else scientific one desires to study:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/searc ... ory&page=1

Force Science Institute is another source of info regarding physically/psychological effects of stress, specifically it's impact on perception & decision making in defensive encounters.

https://www.forcescience.org/research/
You really need to rely on a more reputable journal for your accessions. You may be correct. However, your journal has an impact factor of 2.7 compared to the NEJM with a 79 impact factor.