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Thanks for the info on the Summer Special guys.

stash wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:57 pm Thanks gents. I appreciate the info and will check 'em out.
Stan

As an owner and user of a VMII for 10+ years, I'll offer this- I sold my VMII and purchased the Nexus. It solved the only complaint I ever had about the VMII (not enough cant) If the Criterion had been out at that time, I would probably have bought it.

Before you buy a VMII, please look at the Criterion and Nexus. Same basic design but with a bit more cant to aid in both comfort and concealability. Criterion has a reinforced mouth, as the VMII, and the Nexus is not a reinforced mouth... a bit thinner and more concealable but mouth will compress some when gun is drawn.

Super holsters and worth the price of admission... if you don't like a Sparks holster, you can sell them very easily. There are lots of great makers but only a few that you can resell so easily.

+1 on Milt Sparks VM2. I have been using it since 2005

IMHO, increased forward cant us nice for concealability, but also increases the difficulty of the draw. I prefer a more straight up draw, less cant. It is quicker and easier to draw. So what if there’s a little more bulge from the grip. People don’t pay as much attention as you’d think. Dress around what you want to carry, not the other way around. My 2 cents worth. Maybe only 1.

C-dub wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:34 pm IMHO, increased forward cant us nice for concealability, but also increases the difficulty of the draw. I prefer a more straight up draw, less cant. It is quicker and easier to draw. So what if there’s a little more bulge from the grip. People don’t pay as much attention as you’d think. Dress around what you want to carry, not the other way around. My 2 cents worth. Maybe only 1.

In my case it's quicker and easier to draw with a canted holster. I guess it all depends on your specific location- My arm and hand naturally move forward and up- matching the cant of the holster. I have to adjust to something unnatural (I have to rotate shoulders back to the gun side) to draw straight up and out... unless I'm forward of the hip point. I wear it behind the point of my hip (4-4:30 for righties) and couldn't draw straight up far enough to clear a 5" 1911 if my shoulder was normal. If I'm forward of the hip point, I have just enough range of motion to clear it.

This is a good lesson to newer LTC'ers.... it reinforces to them and the OP that we all have to do some research or practice to find our natural holster point.

flechero wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:58 am

C-dub wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:34 pm IMHO, increased forward cant us nice for concealability, but also increases the difficulty of the draw. I prefer a more straight up draw, less cant. It is quicker and easier to draw. So what if there’s a little more bulge from the grip. People don’t pay as much attention as you’d think. Dress around what you want to carry, not the other way around. My 2 cents worth. Maybe only 1.

In my case it's quicker and easier to draw with a canted holster. I guess it all depends on your specific location- My arm and hand naturally move forward and up- matching the cant of the holster. I have to adjust to something unnatural (I have to rotate shoulders back to the gun side) to draw straight up and out... unless I'm forward of the hip point. I wear it behind the point of my hip (4-4:30 for righties) and couldn't draw straight up far enough to clear a 5" 1911 if my shoulder was normal. If I'm forward of the hip point, I have just enough range of motion to clear it.

This is a good lesson to newer LTC'ers.... it reinforces to them and the OP that we all have to do some research or practice to find our natural holster point.

Exactly.

The more vertical (less cant) is easier and quicker for me and in general everyone, but there are always exceptions.

AndyC wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:30 am For folks with short torsos - or even those who wear their pants a bit higher - a bit of cant makes it easier to get the pistol out; not everyone can draw straight up.

You callin' me long waisted?!?!?!

For three years I carried my Tanfoglio BTA90, which is very close in size to a Commander .45, in a Galco King Tuk which was designed for a Commander size .45. Worked well. Was fairly easy to conceal and relatively comfortable. Belt clips on the holster tended to mar the steering wheel and seat if I was not careful.

AndyC wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:18 pm

flechero wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:44 am

AndyC wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:30 am For folks with short torsos - or even those who wear their pants a bit higher - a bit of cant makes it easier to get the pistol out; not everyone can draw straight up.

You callin' me long waisted?!?!?!

Short-ar$e ;)

I thought you were saying that he wears his jeans up a bit, like mom jeans.