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Grayling813 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:56 pm Oh good, let’s get another war started spilling Americans’ blood and spending taxpayers’ money. Has not 20 years, thousands of lives lost, 10’s of thousands wounded and 2 trillion dollars spent taught the war hawks anything?

Grayling813 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:56 pm Oh good, let’s get another war started spilling Americans’ blood and spending taxpayers’ money. Has not 20 years, thousands of lives lost, 10’s of thousands wounded and 2 trillion dollars spent taught the war hawks anything?

Redneck_Buddha wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:23 pm

Grayling813 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:56 pm Oh good, let’s get another war started spilling Americans’ blood and spending taxpayers’ money. Has not 20 years, thousands of lives lost, 10’s of thousands wounded and 2 trillion dollars spent taught the war hawks anything?

So you'd rather we sit idly by while Iran escalates the havoc? According to the story, it took exactly zero troops to take out this terrorist.

Yeah, we're the problem...right.

anygunanywhere wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:35 pm

Redneck_Buddha wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:23 pm

Grayling813 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:56 pm Oh good, let’s get another war started spilling Americans’ blood and spending taxpayers’ money. Has not 20 years, thousands of lives lost, 10’s of thousands wounded and 2 trillion dollars spent taught the war hawks anything?

So you'd rather we sit idly by while Iran escalates the havoc? According to the story, it took exactly zero troops to take out this terrorist.

Yeah, we're the problem...right.

That is not what Grayling is saying. If Iran wants to war we need to end it swiftly and convincingly. Then we need to get all our people out of there. Let them kill each other.

Grayling813 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:56 pm Oh good, let’s get another war started spilling Americans’ blood and spending taxpayers’ money. Has not 20 years, thousands of lives lost, 10’s of thousands wounded and 2 trillion dollars spent taught the war hawks anything?

Ed4032 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:41 pm How can you tell if they are mad at us now? Asking for a friend.

Flightmare wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:46 pm I'm sorry, a friend of mine posted this on social media and I laughed way harder than I should.

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Now I've got "Jingle Bombs" stuck in my head. (due to some language in the song, I decided it was inappropriate to post. It's easy to find on youtube though)

crazy2medic wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:25 pm

Alf wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:05 pm Does this mean the United States won't complain when Iran targets US political leaders in response?

Complain? Who knows, escalate probably! U.S. can bring far more varied and powerful weapons than Iran can! They should quit while they can!

The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:10 pm

crazy2medic wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:25 pm

Alf wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:05 pm Does this mean the United States won't complain when Iran targets US political leaders in response?

Complain? Who knows, escalate probably! U.S. can bring far more varied and powerful weapons than Iran can! They should quit while they can!

I don’t entirely disagree, but consider histories, capabilities, and methods..... the Iranians who have most to fear from America's war-making capabilities and methods are Iran’s leadership and military. The Americans who have the most to fear from Iran’s war-making capabilities and methods are average American civilian citizens. Our nation fights wars primarily through normal military channels. Iran fights wars by proxy through terrorist organizations. We kill enemy combatants, they kill civilians.

Whether or not a war with Iran is winnable (in purely military terms, it absolutely is), and whether or not it’s advisable (that’s legitimately open to question....as should be ANY war), we shouldn’t ignore histories, capabilities, and methods. If they bring even a small terror capability to our shores, it is civilians who’ll pay the price, more so than our military.

I don’t say this to argue one way or the other about a war with Iran. I say it only to caution all of us against getting salty without a thought for consequences.