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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:38 pm
by ForbidInjustice
Which means when I go in to court and play lawyer, I'll be armed with the scriptures of Wikipedia and Dictionary.com!

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:43 pm
by Liberty
KBCraig wrote:
ForbidInjustice wrote:Nope, not according to the Texas Penal Code, anyway.. a knife with a blade over 5½ inches is illegal.

Neither of those two knifes has a double edge, although I do have a folding dagger that does.
PC 46.01(6) "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stilletto, and poniard;
(D) bowie knife;
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.


The trouble is that they don't define dagger, dirk, stilletto, poniard, or bowie knife. Someone wanting to make trouble for you could consider that Fairbairn to be a dagger, even with a false edge.
I read somewhere from someone I respect that a CHL allows you to have some of the illegal weapons. The same section of the penal code that makes an exemption to carry a concealed gun, also exempts us from from the illegal weapons.

I am in a Hotel room right now or I'd look it up. Perhaps someone could find the appropriate penal code and explain it beter than I.. or prove me all wet!!

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:59 pm
by Sludge
9mmGuy wrote:I have a hard enough time paying attention to my surroundings, much less trying to do it while listening to music or watching an iPod video... I use one for working out, but not in public.
I have my ipod on me 24/7, but does not mean that I listen to it every chance I get. I lisen to it when I am in my car, when i work out, or when i am at work......

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:03 pm
by fadlan12
ForbidInjustice wrote:Nope, not according to the Texas Penal Code, anyway.. a knife with a blade over 5½ inches is illegal.

Neither of those two knifes has a double edge, although I do have a folding dagger that does. I think if I got stopped, they would show priority to me carrying the firearm, not worry about the knife that I have on my side. :cool:
Ok the Gerber looked like ir t was, I thought I read the on here about the double edge thing. :smile:

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:22 pm
by ForbidInjustice
Ah ok, I just thought you assumed that the Gerber was double-edged because it is a combat knife. I love that knife; I was given it by a local police officer a couple years ago. It's quick to snap out, it will cut through anything, and the blade is about as close to 5½ inches as it gets!

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:58 am
by KBCraig
Liberty wrote:I read somewhere from someone I respect that a CHL allows you to have some of the illegal weapons. The same section of the penal code that makes an exemption to carry a concealed gun, also exempts us from from the illegal weapons.
A literal reading of the Code does imply that. But others argue that no matter what the Code says, the implied intent of the CHL is to exempt carrying a concealed handgun, and it would be unwise to push the issue.

I'm neutral on it. I know what the law says, but since there is no case law on the matter, I would suggest that you shouldn't be eager to carry a club or illegal knife and claim exemption by having a CHL.

Kevin

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:18 pm
by Vic9mm
with a chl can you have the gun fully loaded and 1 in the chamber? just wondering

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:21 pm
by longtooth
Yes sir you sure can.
You need the gun fully loaded & one in the pipe.
If you need it you will not have time to charge it.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:51 pm
by Liberty
KBCraig wrote:
Liberty wrote:I read somewhere from someone I respect that a CHL allows you to have some of the illegal weapons. The same section of the penal code that makes an exemption to carry a concealed gun, also exempts us from from the illegal weapons.
A literal reading of the Code does imply that. But others argue that no matter what the Code says, the implied intent of the CHL is to exempt carrying a concealed handgun, and it would be unwise to push the issue.

I'm neutral on it. I know what the law says, but since there is no case law on the matter, I would suggest that you shouldn't be eager to carry a club or illegal knife and claim exemption by having a CHL.

Kevin
While I believe the PC clearly states that that it is OK to carry. I doubt that most LEOs would understand the law to mean that it is OK. I agree it would be a bad idea. Being caught would mean an almost certain ride.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:07 pm
by ForbidInjustice
Liberty wrote: While I believe the PC clearly states that that it is OK to carry. I doubt that most LEOs would understand the law to mean that it is OK. I agree it would be a bad idea. Being caught would mean an almost certain ride.
I concur. You wouldn't believe how many LEOs I have proven wrong by calling them out on the penal code [not during a traffic stop or any official situation, just in casual conversation], and it would be unfortunate if I were to be taken to jail based solely on their interpretation of the law. I doubt that they will pull out their cell phone during a routine traffic stop and call their sergeant to verify a statute. Bottom line, I don't want to be taken to jail for anything, even if innocent. That's a heck of a lot of trouble to go through.

Wow, my image post alone started a nice digression!

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:01 am
by KBCraig
Vic9mm wrote:with a chl can you have the gun fully loaded and 1 in the chamber? just wondering
If there's not a round in the chamber, it's not loaded.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:59 am
by T3hK1w1
This is my current setup. Gerber Evo, Gerber Mini Paraframe, Inova X5, Sears Repeater in .177 :shock: no, I don't actually carry that. It does bring a whole new meaning to the term "hi-cap" though...50+ rounds :grin: when I turn 21 I will be packing most likely a Ruger wheelgun.[/i]

Image

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:52 am
by longtooth
T3hK1w1 wrote:This is my current setup. Gerber Evo, Gerber Mini Paraframe, Inova X5, Sears Repeater in .177 :shock: no, I don't actually carry that. It does bring a whole new meaning to the term "hi-cap" though...50+ rounds :grin: when I turn 21 I will be packing most likely a Ruger wheelgun.[/i]

Image
Good job young man.
We are looking forward to meeting you.
LT

50rd mag :shock: Dont let Schumer find out.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:55 am
by ForbidInjustice
Whoa, hey.. what is that thing on the left of that picture?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:16 am
by T3hK1w1
Thing all the way on the left is an Inova X5 flashlight I picked up today at Sharper Image to replace my old battered flashlight. Inova makes LED flashlights for law enforcement and the military.