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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:50 am
by Dave2
Is it just me, or did the prosecutor just define "beyond a reasonable doubt" as "beyond any doubt"?
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:54 am
by Jaguar
It's all over - up to the Jury now.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:58 am
by sjfcontrol
Which makes me wonder why the judge needs a conference with the attorneys.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:29 pm
by Jaguar
sjfcontrol wrote:Which makes me wonder why the judge needs a conference with the attorneys.
Maybe to explain what constitutes "reasonable" to the prosecution?
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:32 pm
by sjfcontrol
Jaguar wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:Which makes me wonder why the judge needs a conference with the attorneys.
Maybe to explain what constitutes "reasonable" to the prosecution?
Whatever it means, it's now too late for the lawyers to do anything about it.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:40 pm
by texanjoker
Jaguar wrote:It's all over - up to the Jury now.

AMEN
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:40 pm
by Jaguar
sjfcontrol wrote:Jaguar wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:Which makes me wonder why the judge needs a conference with the attorneys.
Maybe to explain what constitutes "reasonable" to the prosecution?
Whatever it means, it's now too late for the lawyers to do anything about it.
Maybe MOM can explain it to the judge for the jury instructions.
If they follow defense advice and ask themselves if the state proved beyond reasonable doubt that Z did not have justification for using deadly force, which the state did not, then I expect a verdict of not guilty before 3:30. If it goes longer I would expect a guilty of manslaughter verdict as a compromise between facts and feelings. Sad.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:46 pm
by sugar land dave
I tip my hat to those early on who said wait. Much of what media said was either totally incorrect or twisted slightly to misrepresent. Bravo to the forum vets!

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:12 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
sugar land dave wrote:I tip my hat to those early on who said wait. Much of what media said was either totally incorrect or twisted slightly to misrepresent. Bravo to the forum vets!

Suck Up!

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:13 pm
by ELB
Jury Instructions:
http://t.co/TWUYAkSr9U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Opens a .pdf.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:48 pm
by TheArmedFarmer
Here are the instructions in non-PDF form:
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/nationa ... ury/nYnqZ/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:49 pm
by texanjoker
Here is an interesting thought.....
if the jury returns a guilty verdict today, is GZ going to be immediately taken back into custody? I've seen it go both ways.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:54 pm
by RottenApple
texanjoker wrote:Here is an interesting thought.....
if the jury returns a guilty verdict today, is GZ going to be immediately taken back into custody? I've seen it go both ways.
Most likely, yes. And, TBH, solitary confinement is probably the best (definitely the safest) place for him while going through the appeals (which, according to Andrew Branca, will take at least a year just for the first one).
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:01 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
All I know is if they convict George Zimmerman, it won't be safe for any Mexican American who has light skin to walk the streets in Florida. It will be open season on them.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:28 pm
by Cedar Park Dad
03Lightningrocks wrote:All I know is if they convict George Zimmerman, it won't be safe for any Mexican American who has light skin to walk the streets in Florida. It will be open season on them.
I don't think they're that concerned.
