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Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:47 pm
by JP171
C-dub wrote:E.Marquez wrote:C-dub wrote:So, does this mean that the intoxication charge was also dropped? I didn't even see it mentioned. We knew the charge regarding carrying in the hospital was dropped.
I heard from mr glass tonight,
All charges dropped
That is excellent news.
I hope his status in the Army is unaffected and he is returned to his former duties ASAP.
unfortunatly thats not gonna happen, he already has a counseling letter at the least in his 201 file and his CO has probably put notes in his restricted file that blew his career to bits
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:34 pm
by E.Marquez
JP171 wrote:C-dub wrote:E.Marquez wrote:C-dub wrote:So, does this mean that the intoxication charge was also dropped? I didn't even see it mentioned. We knew the charge regarding carrying in the hospital was dropped.
I heard from mr glass tonight,
All charges dropped
That is excellent news.
I hope his status in the Army is unaffected and he is returned to his former duties ASAP.
unfortunatly thats not gonna happen, he already has a counseling letter at the least in his 201 file and his CO has probably put notes in his restricted file that blew his career to bits
Umm, no,
1st, a DA4856 developmental counseling form is a local document only, and is destroyed upon transferring units.
2nd, there is no such thing as a 201 file any longer, personal records are digital and counseling forms have not been placed In a personal record for more then 30 years now.
3rd, this should effect him no more then a closed case with no conviction might effect a person applying for a chl.. You have to disclose it, on say a security clearance application, but not a big deal. No one else will ever know in a future unit unless he tells them.
The lasting effects of this event are personal (financial) in nature. Not professional.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:09 pm
by JP171
E.Marquez wrote:JP171 wrote:C-dub wrote:E.Marquez wrote:C-dub wrote:So, does this mean that the intoxication charge was also dropped? I didn't even see it mentioned. We knew the charge regarding carrying in the hospital was dropped.
I heard from mr glass tonight,
All charges dropped
That is excellent news.
I hope his status in the Army is unaffected and he is returned to his former duties ASAP.
unfortunatly thats not gonna happen, he already has a counseling letter at the least in his 201 file and his CO has probably put notes in his restricted file that blew his career to bits
Umm, no,
1st, a DA4856 developmental counseling form is a local document only, and is destroyed upon transferring units.
2nd, there is no such thing as a 201 file any longer, personal records are digital and counseling forms have not been placed In a personal record for more then 30 years now.
3rd, this should effect him no more then a closed case with no conviction might effect a person applying for a chl.. You have to disclose it, on say a security clearance application, but not a big deal. No one else will ever know in a future unit unless he tells them.
The lasting effects of this event are personal (financial) in nature. Not professional.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:17 am
by Slipknot
Good news indeed. I do wonder how the charges were removed. Did the DA drop the charges or were they dismissed by the judge?
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:23 pm
by DEB
E.Marquez wrote:JP171 wrote:C-dub wrote:E.Marquez wrote:C-dub wrote:So, does this mean that the intoxication charge was also dropped? I didn't even see it mentioned. We knew the charge regarding carrying in the hospital was dropped.
I heard from mr glass tonight,
All charges dropped
That is excellent news.
I hope his status in the Army is unaffected and he is returned to his former duties ASAP.
unfortunatly thats not gonna happen, he already has a counseling letter at the least in his 201 file and his CO has probably put notes in his restricted file that blew his career to bits
Umm, no,
1st, a DA4856 developmental counseling form is a local document only, and is destroyed upon transferring units.
2nd, there is no such thing as a 201 file any longer, personal records are digital and counseling forms have not been placed In a personal record for more then 30 years now.
3rd, this should effect him no more then a closed case with no conviction might effect a person applying for a chl.. You have to disclose it, on say a security clearance application, but not a big deal. No one else will ever know in a future unit unless he tells them.
The lasting effects of this event are personal (financial) in nature. Not professional.
This is excellent news. I just wish he wasn't harmed in any way, even financially. Financial effects are almost just as harmful as Judicial effects, especially for those who can ill afford it. Perhaps during the next election this could be brought up by those of us who can vote for or against the Sheriff and the D.A. Thanks SGM for your lead in informing us about this case.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:25 pm
by WildBill
Slipknot wrote:Good news indeed. I do wonder how the charges were removed. Did the DA drop the charges or were they dismissed by the judge?
Eventually, the DA decided not to prosecute.
Re: Texas soldier faces legal battle over gun in hospitial
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:47 pm
by Slipknot
WildBill wrote:Slipknot wrote:Good news indeed. I do wonder how the charges were removed. Did the DA drop the charges or were they dismissed by the judge?
Eventually, the DA decided not to prosecute.
That is what the article said, but it was so full of bad information that I wasnt going to rely on it being true.
Ill wager the DA probably knew from the get go he couldnt make the rap stick so took his time and let the billable hours rack up for Sampson.