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Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:58 pm
by Papa_Tiger
KC5AV wrote:Did Estes say he was voting against the amendment or the bill?
Against the amendment.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:58 pm
by Glockster
Wow.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:59 pm
by mr1337
Oh snap. Amendment 9 adopted.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:59 pm
by mojo84
I can't get the video to play. Thanks for any updates that are posted.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:59 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:00 pm
by mojo84
Which amendment?

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:00 pm
by Glockster
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.
Yupper. Not good.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:00 pm
by Pawpaw
mojo84 wrote:I can't get the video to play. Thanks for any updates that are posted.
Try this: http://tlcsenate.granicus.com/MediaPlay ... ent_id=929

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:00 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
Holy hell, that took 6 hours?

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:00 pm
by SewTexas
mr1337 wrote:Oh snap. Amendment 9 adopted.

it was actually fairly close

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:01 pm
by NorthTexas
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TXBO wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Senator Huffman was just asked by Senator West if she would withdraw her amendment if Senator Huffines would withdraw his amendment. She said yes.... if Huffines would withdraw his, she would withdraw hers. Under further questioning, she concedes that failure to withdraw both amendments would force the bill into conference with the house, and possibly kill the bill.

HB910 is a good bill, AS IS, without further amendments.

I cannot support what Huffines is doing......... NOT necessarily because he's wrong on the issue (Oklahoma has a similar law)...... but because his tactic is threatening to sink the whole thing, and THAT is inexcusable. If you don't like what I've just said, Senator ELLISON has spoken in favor of Huffman's amendment precisely because it will open up a chance for him to filibuster the bill late in the session and kill it.

This is what happens when tyros play with political dynamite....... and Huffines is a tyro.
I find it odd that you vilify him and give Huffman a pass. My understanding is that the Huffine amendment is identical to Dutton amendment. If this is true, Ellison will not get another chance to kill it. It goes straight to Abbott.
Huffines caused this problem. I'm not at all happy with Huffman, but this Bill would have passed this morning had he not pulled this garbage.

Chas.
But if it passes tonight and goes straight to the Governor, it's worth it.
That's like saying it's okay to draw out your family's life savings and bet all of it on one hand of Blackjack, because it will be worth it if you win. Risking the loss of both open-carry and campus-carry to get an amendment that will have absolutely no impact in the real world is a very poor bet.

Chas.
I was typing out a response, but yours is much more direct and elegant. :tiphat:

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:01 pm
by TXBO
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.
What can they possibly do? Is the amendment identical to Dutton?

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:01 pm
by Jasonw560
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.
Yep.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:02 pm
by mojo84
Pawpaw wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I can't get the video to play. Thanks for any updates that are posted.
Try this: http://tlcsenate.granicus.com/MediaPlay ... ent_id=929

Thanks. That's the one I'm trying. Judging getting a black screen.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:04 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.
What can they possibly do? Is the amendment identical to Dutton?
I'm not putting that on a public forum.

Chas.