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bblhd672 wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:11 am The only poll that matters is the one on Wednesday November 7th.
Vote Cruz on November 6th.
They do not have a 'legal duty' to prohibit...PriestTheRunner wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:06 pmSS has a legal duty to prohibit, though I don't know if that extends to all of their protect-ees or just the POTUS. Might want to call ahead to local PD or just leave it in the car.rotor wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:46 pm Slightly off topic but Ted Cruz will be in Wichita Falls on Oct. 3, 2018 and apparently Donald Trump Jr will be with him and I plan on going. It will be in a city owned property and I am wondering if concealed carry will be allowed. Secret service might prohibit?
dlh wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:02 am Beto is certainly not gun-friendly. He adopts the usual anti-gun line that the AR15 is an "assault rifle" which we know it is not. He nuances his position by saying we can keep our AR15s if we already have one BUT he does not believe we should be able to buy any FUTURE AR15s. So, if I want to buy one in a couple of years he would be opposed to that. Ted Cruz is by no means perfect but he certainly not gonna object should I decide to buy another AR down the road.
To "get a load of Beto" just check out this radio interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2bjoThy4Ug&t=216s
They have a legal duty to provide threat assessment regarding the functions they oversee. If that threat assessment includes the reasonable risk that a pot-shot may be taken at a protectee, then they have the legal authority (and responsibility) to ban all firearms.RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:30 amThey do not have a 'legal duty' to prohibit...PriestTheRunner wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:06 pmSS has a legal duty to prohibit, though I don't know if that extends to all of their protect-ees or just the POTUS. Might want to call ahead to local PD or just leave it in the car.rotor wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:46 pm Slightly off topic but Ted Cruz will be in Wichita Falls on Oct. 3, 2018 and apparently Donald Trump Jr will be with him and I plan on going. It will be in a city owned property and I am wondering if concealed carry will be allowed. Secret service might prohibit?
(a) Establishment.--The United States Secret Service (hereafter in
this section referred to as the ``Service''), at the direction of the
Secretary of the Treasury, may establish the National Threat Assessment
Center (hereafter in this section referred to as the ``Center'') as a
unit within the Service.
(b) Functions.--The Service may provide the following to Federal,
State, and local law enforcement agencies through the Center:
(1) Training in the area of threat assessment.
(2) Consultation on complex threat assessment cases or
plans.
(3) Research on threat assessment and the prevention of
targeted violence.
(4) Facilitation of information sharing among all such
agencies with protective or public safety responsibilities.
(5) Programs to promote the standardization of Federal,
State, and local threat assessments and investigations involving
threats.
(6) Any other activities the Secretary determines are
necessary to implement a comprehensive threat assessment
capability.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/us/p ... ebate.htmlThe Secret Service said Tuesday that it had the authority to ban guns from sites visited by presidential candidates under its protection.
Is this part of the same group of polls that told us Trump would lose 2 years ago?Bitter Clinger wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:07 am Reuters poll shows Beto O'Rourke ahead of Ted Cruz for first time in race for Senate
http://www.fox4news.com/politics/reuter ... for-senate
So he claims that there were so many machine gun killings in the 1930's that our rights had to be reduced to lower the violence, then says the ones still owned are family heirlooms and are not on the streets gunning people down. Hmmm, are machine guns good or bad cause if they are bad, they should be out on the streets turning them red. Those killings were highly sensationalized by the media in the day much the same way a mass killing with an AR type rifle is today.dlh wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:02 am Beto is certainly not gun-friendly. He adopts the usual anti-gun line that the AR15 is an "assault rifle" which we know it is not. He nuances his position by saying we can keep our AR15s if we already have one BUT he does not believe we should be able to buy any FUTURE AR15s. So, if I want to buy one in a couple of years he would be opposed to that. Ted Cruz is by no means perfect but he certainly not gonna object should I decide to buy another AR down the road.
To "get a load of Beto" just check out this radio interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2bjoThy4Ug&t=216s
Yes it is, and they blew it big time in 2016.jason812 wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:03 am
Is this part of the same group of polls that told us Trump would lose 2 years ago?
No mention of money from NY or CA for o'rourke... yep, that's some great reporting- honest tooO’Rourke has raised more money than Cruz, but outside groups are pouring money into the race to help keep Cruz in office.
Like other communists Beto wants to restrict your 1st Amendment rights once he's successful at ending your 2nd Amendment rights.jason812 wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:13 am I wonder what other rights he is ok with reducing or doing away with?
I and several of my friends, carried when Ted Cruz was in Temple, there wasn't any Secret Service around that I identified, also no-one was checking or prohibiting firearms. Donald Trump Junior, although Dad is President, doesn't receive Secret Service protection that I know of. Maybe he does? But, Trump Jr is an adult, just happens to have a dad that became President. Had several Temple P.D. folks standing with Ted, even had an individual protesting Ted inside the Restaurant, we just boo'ed her off the stage as it were.RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:30 amThey do not have a 'legal duty' to prohibit...PriestTheRunner wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:06 pmSS has a legal duty to prohibit, though I don't know if that extends to all of their protect-ees or just the POTUS. Might want to call ahead to local PD or just leave it in the car.rotor wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:46 pm Slightly off topic but Ted Cruz will be in Wichita Falls on Oct. 3, 2018 and apparently Donald Trump Jr will be with him and I plan on going. It will be in a city owned property and I am wondering if concealed carry will be allowed. Secret service might prohibit?
PriestTheRunner wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:52 am They have a legal duty to provide threat assessment regarding the functions they oversee. If that threat assessment includes the reasonable risk that a pot-shot may be taken at a protectee, then they have the legal authority (and responsibility) to ban all firearms.
Including LEO and MIL.They may have the legal authority to ban all firearms, but I'm not sure this is a responsibility of theirs. If it is, they are failing miserably. Has the Secret Service ever banned all firearms from a place that a protectee is visiting? I thought they were usually armed, so at best they only ever ban some firearms, not all.PriestTheRunner wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:52 am They have a legal duty to provide threat assessment regarding the functions they oversee. If that threat assessment includes the reasonable risk that a pot-shot may be taken at a protectee, then they have the legal authority (and responsibility) to ban all firearms.
'Duty to' and 'authority to' are two completely different issues...PriestTheRunner wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:52 amThey have a legal duty to provide threat assessment regarding the functions they oversee. If that threat assessment includes the reasonable risk that a pot-shot may be taken at a protectee, then they have the legal authority (and responsibility) to ban all firearms.RogueUSMC wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:30 amThey do not have a 'legal duty' to prohibit...PriestTheRunner wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:06 pmSS has a legal duty to prohibit, though I don't know if that extends to all of their protect-ees or just the POTUS. Might want to call ahead to local PD or just leave it in the car.rotor wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:46 pm Slightly off topic but Ted Cruz will be in Wichita Falls on Oct. 3, 2018 and apparently Donald Trump Jr will be with him and I plan on going. It will be in a city owned property and I am wondering if concealed carry will be allowed. Secret service might prohibit?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3056
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/879
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-106p ... ubl544.htm
(a) Establishment.--The United States Secret Service (hereafter in
this section referred to as the ``Service''), at the direction of the
Secretary of the Treasury, may establish the National Threat Assessment
Center (hereafter in this section referred to as the ``Center'') as a
unit within the Service.
(b) Functions.--The Service may provide the following to Federal,
State, and local law enforcement agencies through the Center:
(1) Training in the area of threat assessment.
(2) Consultation on complex threat assessment cases or
plans.
(3) Research on threat assessment and the prevention of
targeted violence.
(4) Facilitation of information sharing among all such
agencies with protective or public safety responsibilities.
(5) Programs to promote the standardization of Federal,
State, and local threat assessments and investigations involving
threats.
(6) Any other activities the Secretary determines are
necessary to implement a comprehensive threat assessment
capability.https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/us/p ... ebate.htmlThe Secret Service said Tuesday that it had the authority to ban guns from sites visited by presidential candidates under its protection.