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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:12 pm
by Dadtodabone
Wow, Ranger School from BCT! So they've eliminated Airborne School, RIP, the 75th and BOLC? Man, that's what I call streamlined.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:48 pm
by Bullitt
Dadtodabone wrote:Wow, Ranger School from BCT! So they've eliminated Airborne School, RIP, the 75th and BOLC? Man, that's what I call streamlined.
In your enthusiasm to reply, and to sound sarcastic in your post, you didn't follow the progression I stated. Go back and read. I said, Basic, AIT, Airborne, then Ranger. That was the normal progression. I can tell from your note, you are neither tabbed or scrolled. Rant all you want.

The 75th is fairly new in Ranger history. RIP and its successor RASP were initially created as prep for Ranger School since the washout rate was so high on soldiers who went to Ranger School directly from the 75th. The 75th has formalized it somewhat, but one can't have a career in the 75th unless one gets tabbed at Ranger School, whether they have RIP/RASP or not. Nevertheless, RIP/RASP is not a requirement to go to Ranger School, but it is a requirement to go to a scrolled Ranger Battalion as an enlisted man. BOLC was generic for officers, not enlisted men, was short-lived, and is now gone. BOLC has never been a "requirement" for Ranger School, and it has nothing to do with being a scrolled and/or tabbed Ranger. Plenty were going to Ranger school without RIP/RASP and straight to LRRP companies or directly to the Airborne Divisions. There are plenty of non-infantry Rangers too (mostly officers 12A/C). The only requirements for enlisted personnel for Ranger School remain as Basic, AIT, and Airborne School, plus higher scores on the fitness test. At one time, depending on schooling cycles, one could even go to Ranger School without Airborne wings. However, leg-Rangers are rare these days.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:18 pm
by sjfcontrol
What does all this military stuff have to do with the subject? :headscratch

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:21 pm
by baldeagle
sjfcontrol wrote:What does all this military stuff have to do with the subject? :headscratch
Absolutely nothing.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:22 pm
by VoiceofReason
Back on topic

Dueling protests over George Zimmerman acquittal coming to River Oaks in Houston

HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Two opposing groups in Houston with opposite stances on the George Zimmerman verdict will likely come face-to-face Sunday in dueling protests.

According to organizers, the Martin march will start at 4pm, taking off from Wiley Park. The counter-protest will begin at Lamar High School at 3pm.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=9179467" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am 5 hours away. Can’t make it.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:31 pm
by Keith B
VoiceofReason wrote:Back on topic

Dueling protests over George Zimmerman acquittal coming to River Oaks in Houston

HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Two opposing groups in Houston with opposite stances on the George Zimmerman verdict will likely come face-to-face Sunday in dueling protests.

According to organizers, the Martin march will start at 4pm, taking off from Wiley Park. The counter-protest will begin at Lamar High School at 3pm.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=9179467" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am 5 hours away. Can’t make it.
Being discussed here viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67793" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:51 pm
by gringo pistolero
sjfcontrol wrote:What does all this military stuff have to do with the subject? :headscratch
It's a form of ad hominem. Typically, that means attacking the other person instead of the strong argument. However, a variant involves someone puffing themselves up because their position is weak. The idea is the audience will forget that the argument is not supported by facts or logic, and consider it favorably solely because the speaker claims to be an Ivy League graduate, a Ranger, or something else they think the audience will respect.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:24 pm
by sjfcontrol
gringo pistolero wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:What does all this military stuff have to do with the subject? :headscratch
It's a form of ad hominem. Typically, that means attacking the other person instead of the strong argument. However, a variant involves someone puffing themselves up because their position is weak. The idea is the audience will forget that the argument is not supported by facts or logic, and consider it favorably solely because the speaker claims to be an Ivy League graduate, a Ranger, or something else they think the audience will respect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:mrgreen:

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:07 pm
by gringo pistolero
sjfcontrol wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:mrgreen:
:mrgreen:

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:27 pm
by The Annoyed Man
gringo pistolero wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:mrgreen:
:mrgreen:
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Thank you, both of you! The micturition contest was getting to be a bit much.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:38 pm
by Crossfire
You guys are all starting to annoy the bejeebers out of me. You have managed 193 pages without a lock in this thread, but you are all pushing the envelope now.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:40 pm
by jocat54
Crossfire wrote:You guys are all starting to annoy the bejeebers out of me. You have managed 193 pages without a lock in this thread, but you are all pushing the envelope now.

Please.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:45 pm
by RottenApple
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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:49 pm
by brainman
jocat54 wrote:
Crossfire wrote:You guys are all starting to annoy the bejeebers out of me. You have managed 193 pages without a lock in this thread, but you are all pushing the envelope now.

Please.
I'd second this, but it wouldn't do any good as I already know the thread it will continue in.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:49 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
baldeagle wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:What does all this military stuff have to do with the subject? :headscratch
Absolutely nothing.
Not much. Truth is, the thread has about run its coarse. The ole dead horse has been beatin so many times it appears there is very little to do other than feed the trolls at this point.

The story is done. A thug is dead. Thank god he was taken care of before he could harm anyone else. The hero suffered for helping society. All is well again in the world.

:thewave

Maybe it is time to lock her up.