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Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:30 pm
by TexasComputerDude
NcongruNt wrote:TexasComputerDude wrote:I've got satellite, I've got 1.5Mbps for almost 400 MB then about 1/2 the speed of dialup for the next 24 hour period.
I pay 120$ a month :-(
How's your upload? Being a sysadmin, I could never go for the satellite setup, due to the 1sec+ lag on interactive sessions on a satellite link (such as ssh or remote desktop).
something like 200kbps
I've done some VNC stuff from it and its not THAT bad lag wise. Its usable.
I have noticed problems logging into certain websites like myspace.
Games on the other hand, lol, I think I've set the latency record in battlefield 2142. I logged in just for fun and had something like a 2000 ping.
I would be fine with it if they offered an unlimited download package, 400MB in 24 hours means I can't even update windows. (except from like 3am to 5am)
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:31 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
NcongruNt wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:Well, that burns me up. Here is the result from my office with a T-1! Of course, the T-1 is being used for our telephone system also and I'm sure everyone up here today is playing games or listening to music.
I'll run this test at home.
Chas.

Chas,
A T1 by definition is limited to 1.5Mbx1.5Mb. That's 1536Kb x 1536Kb (minus some overhead). The reason it is so expensive is that upload and the fact that it's a commercial line, which means much better support. Your upload is far and above everyone else's here (aside from KB5AKO, but he didn't post the details of his connection). From what you posted, it looks like very little of your line was being used during that test, and what is being used is easily explained by phone traffic and very light usage.
John
For the record, I'd sooner have a T1 line like yours than a 5Mbx512Kb which seems to be pretty common in everyone else's posts. A T1 is more reliable, consistent, and has dedicated bandwidth, and appropriate for many more services than a residential DSL or cable line. In fact, I've had T1 lines running into my home in the past, I just can't afford that anymore (and you can't normally get one in an apartment anyway).
Thanks, you just saved me some time looking for "something else."
Chas.
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:37 pm
by Charles L. Cotton

This is the test from home with AT&T Uverse DSL (supposedly fiber optic). This isn't close to what we had with cable modem.
Chas.
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:41 pm
by NcongruNt
TexasComputerDude wrote:NcongruNt wrote:TexasComputerDude wrote:I've got satellite, I've got 1.5Mbps for almost 400 MB then about 1/2 the speed of dialup for the next 24 hour period.
I pay 120$ a month :-(
How's your upload? Being a sysadmin, I could never go for the satellite setup, due to the 1sec+ lag on interactive sessions on a satellite link (such as ssh or remote desktop).
something like 200kbps
I've done some VNC stuff from it and its not THAT bad lag wise. Its usable.
I have noticed problems logging into certain websites like myspace.
Games on the other hand, lol, I think I've set the latency record in battlefield 2142. I logged in just for fun and had something like a 2000 ping.
I would be fine with it if they offered an unlimited download package, 400MB in 24 hours means I can't even update windows. (except from like 3am to 5am)
2000ms latency is about right. From the geostationary orbit heights required by satellite internet services, it takes almost a second for the data to get up there, and almost another second to get back down. Without a breakthrough in physics (such as sub-space communication

), that's going to be the best latency you're ever going to achieve on a satellite connection. It's physically impossible to get otherwise.
VNC sessions have some tricks like caching that make it appear less latent than it really is. An interactive command-line session such as ssh will have that two-second lag no matter what.
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:43 pm
by NcongruNt
Charles L. Cotton wrote:NcongruNt wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:Well, that burns me up. Here is the result from my office with a T-1! Of course, the T-1 is being used for our telephone system also and I'm sure everyone up here today is playing games or listening to music.
I'll run this test at home.
Chas.

Chas,
A T1 by definition is limited to 1.5Mbx1.5Mb. That's 1536Kb x 1536Kb (minus some overhead). The reason it is so expensive is that upload and the fact that it's a commercial line, which means much better support. Your upload is far and above everyone else's here (aside from KB5AKO, but he didn't post the details of his connection). From what you posted, it looks like very little of your line was being used during that test, and what is being used is easily explained by phone traffic and very light usage.
John
For the record, I'd sooner have a T1 line like yours than a 5Mbx512Kb which seems to be pretty common in everyone else's posts. A T1 is more reliable, consistent, and has dedicated bandwidth, and appropriate for many more services than a residential DSL or cable line. In fact, I've had T1 lines running into my home in the past, I just can't afford that anymore (and you can't normally get one in an apartment anyway).
Thanks, you just saved me some time looking for "something else."
Chas.
Glad to be of service.

Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:29 pm
by longhorn_92
jimlongley wrote:DSL at home, and the forum is blocked from access at work.
So is mine! It was available at work last month...now it's blocked......hmmm??....
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:30 pm
by casingpoint
This dial up stuff is starting to suck bigtime recently.
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:08 pm
by TexasComputerDude
I'm still holding out for quantum networking, I'm sure its coming along any day now.
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:52 pm
by Liberty

Over my wireless network.
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:06 am
by boomerang
Happy New Year!

Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:38 am
by Xander
Happy new year! DSL at home. 100Mb\s connection at work. Yes, having a 100Mb\s connection does indeed rock. Yes, that *is* nearly two-thirds of an OC-3.

Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:14 am
by Morgan
15MB FioS
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:33 am
by jiannichan
DSL thru Grande. 3.5Mb/768. I actually have 2 DSL lines running into my house, about to be 3.
Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:49 am
by KD5NRH
DSL at home:
Laptop over cellular:

Re: Broadband or Dial-Up
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:39 am
by Charles L. Cotton
KD5NRH wrote:DSL at home:
Laptop over cellular:

Laptop over cellular? Are you using an aircard, or is there some way to use my Blackberry with my laptop? Yeah, I know my Blackberry can access the Internet, but let's just say it isn't fun. I wouldn't need it often, but it would be handy at times.
Chas.