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pbwalker wrote:

Abraham wrote:The list goes on, but an ipad, well, gurrrrrrly men want those things!

Of course, I don't understand 'fantasy' sports teams either, I guess they're another gurrrrrrly man thing I'll never understand...

Do you feel better about yourself making fun of other people?

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Mac owners are so sensitive.

I'm only kidding, of course.

grumble wrote:

gigag04 wrote:Holding out for 3G....

Me too.

Me three.

SQLGeek wrote:

pbwalker wrote:

Abraham wrote:The list goes on, but an ipad, well, gurrrrrrly men want those things!

Of course, I don't understand 'fantasy' sports teams either, I guess they're another gurrrrrrly man thing I'll never understand...

Do you feel better about yourself making fun of other people?

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Mac owners are so sensitive.

I'm only kidding, of course.

Nah...it's just the same garbage Abraham has been spewing for a while now. If you carry a laptop bag, you're a girl. Now, if you have an iPad, you are a girl.

Who knows...maybe he is flirting.

Abraham wrote:What chew talkin bout, I'm outdoors ALL day every day!

I use a chainsaw to cut the wood I then split.

Some of the cut logs are more than 30" in diameter and cutting them into wooden cookies for a fire isn't as much fun as splitting them with a mall and steel wedges. Although if you've never had the pleasure, how could you know...? (bear in mind this sort of thing creates sweat, calloused hands and is most heartily enjoyed while chewing tobacco or dipping while also listening to the winds blow through the trees)

A cord of split and stacked firewood is a thing of beauty and a joy forever, ah, until it's burned.

Oh, I've split my share of wood — and baled my share of hay for that matter, compared to which splittin' wood is women's work — and had my share of callouses and outdoor living. The outdoors is nice. But none of that make me any more of a man than the next fellah. What counts more is the content of my character, and all things considered, that is what I choose to exercise with greater vigor. And given that all that other vigorous activity resulted in a spine which will no longer permit me to chop wood or bale hay, I've had to come to the conclusion that the real guuuuurrrrly men are those who are too stiff to permit themselves a little self-examination instead of criticizing others.



The ball is in your court.

I've been using iWorks for a couple of years now. I'm still using iWorks '08.

If I'm the author and I don't need to share it with a PC user, then I use iWorks. While it will open most MS Office documents, I've had enough trouble that I also have OpenOffice installed.

I like the functionality, especially multiple tables on the same sheet (Numbers). Most of my experience is with Numbers, followed by Pages and none with Keynote. While I love the basic functionality of Numbers, there are a few functional shortcomings that are annoying. But most of all - its SLOW. I have one sheet that has a 25 by 10 table, and 2 charts each with 2 series. The only calculations are simple sum and column totals. There is a noticeable and distracting delay when updating the table. This is on a 2.4GHz/4GB MacBook Pro. I shudder to think what its like on an iPad.

I thought about upgrading to the new version, but couldn't see anything in the release notes that excited me.

I've been contemplating a switch to Office, but want to try it out first.

pbwalker,

Quite a lot of what I post is tongue in cheek, as in this thread..., but I appreciate some are more sensitive than others...

TAM,

As for balin hay, I was a hired hayin hand as a kid, and you're right, it's tough work. Round bales weren't invented then. One man would drive the tractor hauling a baler making rectangular bales, the bales connected to a wagon with three man stacking the hundred pound bales.

As for the content of one's character statement -
Puh-Leese, unflex your gluteus max...

My leg pullin seems to have hit a number of gurrrrrrly nerves...

Just kidding...

Abraham wrote:pbwalker,

Quite a lot of what I post is tongue in cheek, as in this thread..., but I appreciate some are more sensitive than others...

I appreciate the reply...it's one of the joys of a web forum...can't see the person or their intentions. Thanks for the clarification...

Abraham wrote:pbwalker,

Quite a lot of what I post is tongue in cheek, as in this thread..., but I appreciate some are more sensitive than others...

TAM,

As for balin hay, I was a hired hayin hand as a kid, and you're right, it's tough work. Round bales weren't invented then. One man would drive the tractor hauling a baler making rectangular bales, the bales connected to a wagon with three man stacking the hundred pound bales.

That is exactly how I did it. It was in the mid-1970s, and baling hay was some of the hardest work I ever did.

As for the content of one's character statement -
Puh-Leese, unflex your gluteus max...

My leg pullin seems to have hit a number of gurrrrrrly nerves...

Just kidding...

Abraham, please do not take this as an attack, because it is not meant that way. For the record, you have a history of criticizing the way others post. You think their posts are too long. You don't like that their posts have "IANAL" disclaimers. Etc., etc. After a while, it becomes difficult to conclude that posts in which you are critical of others are anything except exactly that — criticism, and not kidding around — particularly when it becomes all about tooting your own horn about what a he-man you are, compared to someone who prefers to live a different way. And then, when I react accordingly, your advice is to "unflex my gluteus max."

I would respond thusly: "Puh-Leese, dude, you made that bed. Don't be surprised if you short-sheeted yourself."

Seriously... I would MUCH rather get along with you. I don't like a fight anymore than the next guy. I can be abrasive sometimes too, and sometimes I can unintentionally offend someone. But my reaction when I become aware that I have offended is to offer an apology and try to make it right, not to tell the other person to unclench their butt, which is itself an offensive response, because it seems to indicate that you don't care whether or not you offend. Can you see where I am coming from?

And if you can, then can we start over?

Ay Yi Yi!

Again, much of what I post is "theatre of the absurd".

I may post something whimsical in one thread and then satirize the same thing in the next.

I like to think it's easy to tell the difference, but, apparently, not so...

As for starting over, we never started to begin with. I'm not offended by anything you've posted in my direction, but if I offended you, that was not the intent, but if received in that vein, then Mea Culpa, yes, let's start over.

I appreciate verbally walking on eggshells with what we say is de rigeur today. This uber sensitivity is a product of political correctness and at times, I rebel against it. We all have to be so verrry careful lest someone misunderstand. Being thin skinned is in fashion and no one can hurl a fun insult without someone crying foul, when what they ought to consider is hurling something similar back in return, to which a mirthful "Hail fellow, well met" would be the result and a good belly laugh by both.

Ribald suggestions as "unclench..." are meant to create a snort of laughter understanding such statements are purposely meant to be both funny and good natured ribbing lacking real derision. There is also an expected come back from the same well...

What a boring place it would be if we all thought the same way.

Then please forgive me for mistaking your intent.

No forgiveness necessary, you've done nothing wrong, however, in the future, please be a little more ornery with me. I'll most appreciative. I can't be hurling good natured ribbing without expecting to receive the same...

When I satirize anyone or seemingly ridicule a bit, I expect the same in return. My hide is thick and besides such give and take is fun.

Now, I have to get back to my he-man pursuits.

Oh, I too would like an ipad, but they're surely quite pricey now and I'd rather get a third generation - when they come about. There I'll store my recipes for he-man stew also known as beer.

Abraham wrote:No forgiveness necessary, you've done nothing wrong, however, in the future, please be a little more ornery with me. I'll most appreciative. I can't be hurling good natured ribbing without expecting to receive the same...

When I satirize anyone or seemingly ridicule a bit, I expect the same in return. My hide is thick and besides such give and take is fun.

Now, I have to get back to my he-man pursuits.

Oh, I too would like an ipad, but they're surely quite pricey now and I'd rather get a third generation - when they come about. There I'll store my recipes for he-man stew also known as beer.

As a moderator and member in general, I will ask anyone that if you are kidding or joking, please put smiley or laughing emoticons behind the comments. Many times it is hard to determine that something you post in print is really done in jest or that your are satirical or facetious, as there is no inflection in the tone that can be read into the comment to know that is how it was meant. This will help keep folks from misinterpreting the comment and becoming upset about the post, and , in turn keep peace on the forum.

Keith B wrote:

Abraham wrote:No forgiveness necessary, you've done nothing wrong, however, in the future, please be a little more ornery with me. I'll most appreciative. I can't be hurling good natured ribbing without expecting to receive the same...

When I satirize anyone or seemingly ridicule a bit, I expect the same in return. My hide is thick and besides such give and take is fun.

Now, I have to get back to my he-man pursuits.

Oh, I too would like an ipad, but they're surely quite pricey now and I'd rather get a third generation - when they come about. There I'll store my recipes for he-man stew also known as beer.

As a moderator and member in general, I will ask anyone that if you are kidding or joking, please put smiley or laughing emoticons behind the comments. Many times it is hard to determine that something you post in print is really done in jest or that your are satirical or facetious, as there is no inflection in the tone that can be read into the comment to know that is how it was meant. This will help keep folks from misinterpreting the comment and becoming upset about the post, and , in turn keep peace on the forum.

Keith, there you go, being stupid and unreasonable again.

The Annoyed Man wrote: Keith, there you go, being stupid and unreasonable again.

Well, I may be stupid, but I ain't dumb.

Back on topic...

I don't understand the purpose of the iPad. It really is just an overgrown iPod, and the (current) popularity of the thing is techno-hype, IMO. At $600 today, it will be essentially worthless in 2 or 3 years. As I see it, it's a solution without a problem, and is largely a novelty item. A netbook is cheaper, and will do more (including multi-tasking and Flash for web). I don't understand the point of having a crippled tablet device, rather than making an actual tablet with the app functionality as added value.

Yes, it's not supposed to be thought of as a computer, but then what do I think of it as? An expensive doo-dad that does essentially everything I can already do on my netbook/laptop or iPod (were I ever duped into buying one) just as (if not more) easily? I see a lot more uses for my $600 that will actually accomplish something that needs accomplishing.