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Re: How many rounds?
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:14 pm
by E150GT
I carry full mag capacity + 1. For the G23, I just have the mag that is in the gun. No extra. When I carry the sig, I carry it in my back pocket and an extra six rounds in my little change pocket on my right side front jeans pocket for a total of 13 rounds. I too need to get in the habit of carrying extra mags for all of my guns, but I cant carry to work and its a major PITA to carry the glock during the work week since I carry that in a crossbreed. The P238 is so easy to slip in my back pocket when I leave work or go to lunch. The magazine for it fits perfectly in that little pocket of my jeans, its a shame theres only one.
Re: How many rounds?
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:32 am
by karder
Excaliber wrote:karder wrote:Sorry. You are right, upon rereading it, I did a poor job explaining. I lock the slide back, insert a round, release the slide and allow it to return to it's normal position, using my left hand to control it's return. Then I insert the magazine.
That practice is what creates a risk of extractor failure.
The extractor is designed to have the cartridge rim ride up from under it as the cartridge is fed from the magazine. Dropping a round into the chamber and letting the slide close forces the nose of the extractor to ride over the rim of the cartridge, which it will do, but it places more strain on the part than it's designed for.
The correct operational sequence is to lock the slide open, insert a loaded magazine, and release the slide to close under the full force of the recoil spring. The magazine is then removed, topped off with another round, and reinserted in the gun.
I was unaware of that. Thank you for the info. I have been doing this since I started shooting as a teenager, but I will cease the practice.
Re: How many rounds?
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:29 pm
by varko
Excaliber wrote:
The ankle is a comfortable place to keep spare magazines. One example of such a rig is
this one from DeSantis.
Ankle carried magazines are somewhat slower to bring into action than ones carried on the belt or in a pocket, but lots faster than the ones you left at home.
Thank you posting. I have been looking for one of these.
Re: How many rounds?
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:59 pm
by Excaliber
karder wrote:Excaliber wrote:karder wrote:Sorry. You are right, upon rereading it, I did a poor job explaining. I lock the slide back, insert a round, release the slide and allow it to return to it's normal position, using my left hand to control it's return. Then I insert the magazine.
That practice is what creates a risk of extractor failure.
The extractor is designed to have the cartridge rim ride up from under it as the cartridge is fed from the magazine. Dropping a round into the chamber and letting the slide close forces the nose of the extractor to ride over the rim of the cartridge, which it will do, but it places more strain on the part than it's designed for.
The correct operational sequence is to lock the slide open, insert a loaded magazine, and release the slide to close under the full force of the recoil spring. The magazine is then removed, topped off with another round, and reinserted in the gun.
I was unaware of that. Thank you for the info. I have been doing this since I started shooting as a teenager, but I will cease the practice.
I did the same thing for years too before there were resources like this Forum, as did virtually all the officers I knew. I was quite surprised when I learned of the issues it could cause.
Re: How many rounds?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:47 am
by cougartex
duns wrote:I top off but up to now my habit is to fire the hollow points in the gun at the range before using cheaper practice ammo. That eliminates the tedium and avoids any possible bullet setback problem.
