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ScottDLS wrote:I for one am looking forward to getting my crack cocaine unadulterated and approved by the FDA. Also, have any of you had any of that Mexican Meth they're bringing into Arizona? The stuff they cut it with is rat poison.... :banghead: . I assume big pharma companies will clean this stuff up.
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ScottDLS wrote:
74novaman wrote:OG, the only thing you're forgetting is that ending prohibition didn't end the mobs, just their alcohol profits. These drug cartels have so much money and power that if we do legalize we better has a plan to neutralize whatever theyll start doing to make money next. I suspect human trafficking into the us would become a lot more vicious and dangerous. Perhaps legalizaton along with building a darn fence already...
I for one am looking forward to getting my crack cocaine unadulterated and approved by the FDA. Also, have any of you had any of that Mexican Meth they're bringing into Arizona? The stuff they cut it with is rat poison.... :banghead: . I assume big pharma companies will clean this stuff up. There will still be a chance to profit after legalization, too. I'm thinking of opening an opium smoking club and heroin bar. No beverage alcohol served, so presumably no 51% sign. I assume you'll have to be 21 to indulge, but I think I'll set up a chain of pill clubs in Austin and College Station to cater to the university crowd.

Now a question that comes up is...Is one snort of powder cocaine intoxicated under 46.035? Maybe it's up to the cop's discretion. I, for one, intend to be only a social snorter. Maybe a 100 milligrams with a nice meal. LSD trips I will reserve for home use.

:reddevil
You may be onto something, you're thinking something along the lines of a private club type thinghy licensed by the state and the municipalities? Go for it!

If the private club thing didn't fly, the state could execute the drug users. That would save tons of money over various failed prosecution and/or rehab efforts.
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Skydivesnake wrote:
TexasGal wrote:That entire thing is making my blood pressure soar. That the anti-gun press repeats this stuff ad nauseum without even questioning the motivation of the source is soooooo infuriating. It's been all over the news here in the DFW metoplex.
Mexico is profoundly unwilling to face it's policy of striping guns from it's honest citizens is an utter failure. Now, the political pressure is on to make our government take ours too in an equally misguided belief this will somehow make a dent in the crime there.
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Yes it's infuriating - here is what I see is the process of intentional misinformation;

Real events according to FBI data and GOA report June 2009;
29,000 guns recovered on 2008-2007,
11,000 sent to the FBI,
6,000 were successfully traced,
5,114 of those were confirmed to be of US origin,
Therefore 5114 / 6000 = 85%

All well and good so far... but this morphs into;

Story communicated by various .gov and media outlets;
75,000 guns recovered in Mexico (from a different set of unsubstantiated data),
85% (percentage figure from calculation above, and now used independently of the original facts or context) come from the US,
Therefore 63,750 guns came from the US.

You then see the 63,750 number (often rounded upto 65,000) bandied about as fact, when it clearly isn't. Infact, all a politician needs to do is say '85%', 'guns', 'US' and 'Mexico' and the uninformed and easily led fill in the rest for themselves, with the help of the complicit media.

So in other words, 5,114 out of 29,000 guns were successfully traced to the US. That's about 18%. What percentage of illegal aliens caught in the US can be traced back to Mexico? Same question for drugs, and any of their other exports that we don't really appreciate all that much.

Why are we not pressuring the Mexican government to better control the flow of illegal aliens and drugs into the US? Seems to me that this should be a prerequisite before our President listens to any complaints about US sourced guns. I can't wait til we get someone in that office with the cajones to actually stand up for this country.
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RPB wrote:Since guns are pretty useless without ammo...

I wonder why they didn't name Wal-Mart as providing most of the ammo used in Mexican criminal activity?

They need to close down the evil Wal-Mart stores.
Actually I was buying ammo at walmart the other day. As usual they ask for Id to check for age, but this time the cashier said" we need to check ids to make sure people are not from Juarez". I guess walmart is doing their part in fighting the drug cartel wars! :thumbs2:
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