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USA1 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

G.A. Heath wrote:The XD is a Springfield Armory product, not a Taurus, but SA still has a lifetime repair policy on them so send it in and they will take care of it.

Sorry, I meant Springfield Armory.

Don't feel bad, I once went into Chipotle and ordered a Cabana Bowl.


Springfield Armory will take care of it. Their customer service is very good.

I was at a bar once and ordered a Marlboro Genuine Draft....or was it a Miller Light 100... may have been both. Glad I dont drink any more

gigag04 wrote:What's a grip safety?

-Glock Shooter

On the back of the grip there is a spring loaded "bar" that must be compress.

I tried to link a picture but no luck, sorry.

Kirk wrote:

gigag04 wrote:What's a grip safety?

-Glock Shooter

On the back of the grip there is a spring loaded "bar" that must be compress.

I tried to link a picture but no luck, sorry.

thats what i mean my broken Xd is as safe as a glock

WOW. You guys were right. I didn't wait on hold and talked to a real person. They said its going take about 3 weeks.

lunchbox wrote:

Kirk wrote:

gigag04 wrote:What's a grip safety?

-Glock Shooter

On the back of the grip there is a spring loaded "bar" that must be compress.

I tried to link a picture but no luck, sorry.

thats what i mean my broken Xd is as safe as a glock

No, it isn't. Your XD was designed to use a grip safety. It has a broken part running around in there somewhere, and its overall safety has been compromised. You're trying to compare apples to oranges. That would be like saying that my cocked 1911 is as safe as a Glock, after I removed the grip and thumb safeties. That's just not true. Different designs. Different safety systems.

lunchbox wrote:WOW. You guys were right. I didn't wait on hold and talked to a real person. They said its going take about 3 weeks.

Note for the future file:

If you'd called SA when you first posted the issue here on June 5, you'd have the repaired gun back already.

Ok correct me if I am wrong but I have an XDM with the grip safety and when I grip it to unholster I compress that safety thus making the trigger safety the only deterant (sp?) Then if I fail to keep the booger hook off the bang switch I could very well come down with a case of glock leg. Is there a technique to learn that changes my grip to aviod the grip safety compression from the word go?

cctcaden wrote:Ok correct me if I am wrong but I have an XDM with the grip safety and when I grip it to unholster I compress that safety thus making the trigger safety the only deterant (sp?) Then if I fail to keep the booger hook off the bang switch I could very well come down with a case of glock leg. Is there a technique to learn that changes my grip to aviod the grip safety compression from the word go?

Actually if you are pressing the grip safety while holstering an XD/XDm pistol then you are holstering wrong. To properly holster an XD/XDm type firearm place your thumb on the back of the striker status indicator (rear of slide) while holstering, this will keep human hands from engaging the grip safety and will give you an extra measure of safety while holstering.

Firm grip with booger hook indexed along base of the slide.
Pull bang bang device from holster.
point bang bang device at your target with finger still indexed.
flip off the safety
when on target remove booger hook from index position.
place booger hook on bang switch.
Squeeze booger hook until target is no longer a threat.
reapply safety
reindex booger hook.
place bang bang device in holster
that's my procedure for drawing all firearms with certain steps omitted based on type( No safety on some)

G.A. Heath wrote:

cctcaden wrote:Ok correct me if I am wrong but I have an XDM with the grip safety and when I grip it to unholster I compress that safety thus making the trigger safety the only deterant (sp?) Then if I fail to keep the booger hook off the bang switch I could very well come down with a case of glock leg. Is there a technique to learn that changes my grip to aviod the grip safety compression from the word go?

Actually if you are pressing the grip safety while holstering an XD/XDm pistol then you are holstering wrong. To properly holster an XD/XDm type firearm place your thumb on the back of the striker status indicator (rear of slide) while holstering, this will keep human hands from engaging the grip safety and will give you an extra measure of safety while holstering.

Hey thank you very much that was the exact kind of tip I was looking for. I knew to keep my index finger straight but I was wrapping my thumb as I unholstered and reholstered. So now to remember this tip I will just think to myself WRECK eM tECH and get my gun up

cctcaden wrote:

G.A. Heath wrote:

cctcaden wrote:Ok correct me if I am wrong but I have an XDM with the grip safety and when I grip it to unholster I compress that safety thus making the trigger safety the only deterant (sp?) Then if I fail to keep the booger hook off the bang switch I could very well come down with a case of glock leg. Is there a technique to learn that changes my grip to aviod the grip safety compression from the word go?

Actually if you are pressing the grip safety while holstering an XD/XDm pistol then you are holstering wrong. To properly holster an XD/XDm type firearm place your thumb on the back of the striker status indicator (rear of slide) while holstering, this will keep human hands from engaging the grip safety and will give you an extra measure of safety while holstering.

Hey thank you very much that was the exact kind of tip I was looking for. I knew to keep my index finger straight but I was wrapping my thumb as I unholstered and reholstered. So now to remember this tip I will just think to myself WRECK eM tECH and get my gun up

I love it, now I'm gonna have to steal it.

The thumb helps keep the gun in battery and ready to fire. The most important is keeping your finger off the trigger unless you want to shoot. That works for XD, FN, revolvers, rifles, shotguns and detonators.

FNguy wrote:The thumb helps keep the gun in battery and ready to fire. The most important is keeping your finger off the trigger unless you want to shoot. That works for XD, FN, revolvers, rifles, shotguns and detonators.

I don't quite track the point your trying to make. The thumb should never be used to keep a firearm in battery, unless you want a broken thumb. The point of placing the thumb on the rear of the slide on an XD/XDm type firearm is that it keeps the user from engaging the grip safety giving the user an added measure of safety while holstering the firearm. This will keep foreign objects like shirt tails, holster components, ect. from discharging the weapon if the user doesn't notice them should they get inside the trigger guard while holstering.

G.A. Heath wrote:

FNguy wrote:The thumb helps keep the gun in battery and ready to fire. The most important is keeping your finger off the trigger unless you want to shoot. That works for XD, FN, revolvers, rifles, shotguns and detonators.

I don't quite track the point your trying to make. The thumb should never be used to keep a firearm in battery, unless you want a broken thumb. The point of placing the thumb on the rear of the slide on an XD/XDm type firearm is that it keeps the user from engaging the grip safety giving the user an added measure of safety while holstering the firearm. This will keep foreign objects like shirt tails, holster components, ect. from discharging the weapon if the user doesn't notice them should they get inside the trigger guard while holstering.

I was trying to make two points.

First.

Long before the XD had markings in English, people were putting their thumb on the back of semiauto slides when holstering to stop the slide from moving backwards in relation to the frame. ie keep the gun in battery.

Second.

The most important hand position is keeping your finger off the trigger unless you want to shoot. That works for all kinds of guns, including XD.

FNguy wrote:

G.A. Heath wrote:

FNguy wrote:The thumb helps keep the gun in battery and ready to fire. The most important is keeping your finger off the trigger unless you want to shoot. That works for XD, FN, revolvers, rifles, shotguns and detonators.

I don't quite track the point your trying to make. The thumb should never be used to keep a firearm in battery, unless you want a broken thumb. The point of placing the thumb on the rear of the slide on an XD/XDm type firearm is that it keeps the user from engaging the grip safety giving the user an added measure of safety while holstering the firearm. This will keep foreign objects like shirt tails, holster components, ect. from discharging the weapon if the user doesn't notice them should they get inside the trigger guard while holstering.

I was trying to make two points.

First.

Long before the XD had markings in English, people were putting their thumb on the back of semiauto slides when holstering to stop the slide from moving backwards in relation to the frame. ie keep the gun in battery.

Second.

The most important hand position is keeping your finger off the trigger unless you want to shoot. That works for all kinds of guns, including XD.

Now your post makes sense to me. My point is that with the XD, the practice of placing ones thumb on the rear of the slide provides an added measure of safety.