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speedsix wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:"Oh, yee of little faith...", why would you need a gun in the house of the Lord?

...we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley...I KNOW this was posted in jest...

Actually, we have this but it tends to get a lot of people's goat.

Oldgringo wrote:

speedsix wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:"Oh, yee of little faith...", why would you need a gun in the house of the Lord?

...we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley...I KNOW this was posted in jest...

Actually, we have this but it tends to get a lot of people's goat.

That's the "I'm rolling my eyes at you" smiley.

Dave2 wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

speedsix wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:"Oh, yee of little faith...", why would you need a gun in the house of the Lord?

...we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley...I KNOW this was posted in jest...

Actually, we have this but it tends to get a lot of people's goat.

That's the "I'm rolling my eyes at you" smiley.

Good eye!

v-rog wrote:It would be interesting to see how a congregation would respond if the pastor was to pull out his concealed firearm and begin blasting the bad guy from the pulpit...it would probably wake all the sleepers and those who were thinking about lunch! Certaintly would get my attention (but I'm not sure that I would continue attending)...

The first church to be established in Masterson TX was done so by a preacher with a gun. The cowboys didn't want a church....there would go the bars and saloon girls (they thought). Preacher came to town, announcing there would be church services that night. A man came to him saying "The Jones boys are planning on waiting till you get in the pulpit, lasso you out, tie you up, tar you and put you on a train." Preacher just said "That so?" That night, preacher gets in the pulpit, pulls back his frock coat, pulls out two revolvers, cocks them and lays them on the pulpit top.... the first church in Masterson was established!

Oldgringo wrote:

speedsix wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:"Oh, yee of little faith...", why would you need a gun in the house of the Lord?

...we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley...I KNOW this was posted in jest...

Actually, we have this but it tends to get a lot of people's goat.

That doesn't convey sarcasm as much as derision. Its essentially a subtle way of calling someone an idiot.

I still think the best idea is to rename italics as the sarcasm font. its not like we use it for anything else.

For example:

Oldgringos post was very informative

74novaman wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

speedsix wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:"Oh, yee of little faith...", why would you need a gun in the house of the Lord?

...we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley...I KNOW this was posted in jest...

Actually, we have this but it tends to get a lot of people's goat.

That doesn't convey sarcasm as much as derision. It's essentially a subtle way of calling someone an idiot.

I still think the best idea is to rename italics as the sarcasm font. its not like we use it for anything else.

For example:

Oldgringo's post was very informative

...an idiot? BTW, I added apostrophes to your post above for you.

Oldgringo wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

speedsix wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:"Oh, yee of little faith...", why would you need a gun in the house of the Lord?

...we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley...I KNOW this was posted in jest...

Actually, we have this but it tends to get a lot of people's goat.

That's the "I'm rolling my eyes at you" smiley.

Good eye!

...it does a body good to get his goat got once in awhile!!!

wgoforth wrote: I'm a church minister as well, as yes, churches tend to attract desperate people. Sometimes desperate for the Word...other times for alcohol, drugs, emotional/menta help..and these can quickly become violent when turned down or offered the help they didn't want. I am speaking to a group of preachers in Oct on the subject of church security. Although not publicized unless it is large numbers, there are on the avg of over 100 church shooting a year..and does not include other forms of violence and theft.

This guy has been keeping track:
http://www.carlchinn.com/Church_Security_Concepts.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Deadly Force Incidents (DFI's) at Faith-Based Organizations in the United States (includes abductions, attacks, suspicious deaths, suicides and deadly force intervention / protection)

DATA CURRENT for time period 1/1/1999 through 8/15/11

TOTAL INCIDENTS = 475
NUMBER OF DFI's WHERE THE "ATTACK RESULTED IN DEATH OF OTHERS" (ARDO) = 201 or 42.32%

GhostTX wrote:

wgoforth wrote: I'm a church minister as well, as yes, churches tend to attract desperate people. Sometimes desperate for the Word...other times for alcohol, drugs, emotional/menta help..and these can quickly become violent when turned down or offered the help they didn't want. I am speaking to a group of preachers in Oct on the subject of church security. Although not publicized unless it is large numbers, there are on the avg of over 100 church shooting a year..and does not include other forms of violence and theft.

This guy has been keeping track:
http://www.carlchinn.com/Church_Security_Concepts.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Deadly Force Incidents (DFI's) at Faith-Based Organizations in the United States (includes abductions, attacks, suspicious deaths, suicides and deadly force intervention / protection)

DATA CURRENT for time period 1/1/1999 through 8/15/11

TOTAL INCIDENTS = 475
NUMBER OF DFI's WHERE THE "ATTACK RESULTED IN DEATH OF OTHERS" (ARDO) = 201 or 42.32%

Right...that's why I cited him :)
Keep in mind your quote from him is deadly force incidents, rather than "church shootings." Fortunatly, most church shootings do not result in death. He lists 69 such incidents this year http://www.carlchinn.com/Church_Crime_History.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...in my opinion, someone who comes to church and starts shooting isn't there to meet Jesus...they're there to meet Jesus NOW!!!

you could call the person a "fast tracker."

speedsix wrote:...in my opinion, someone who comes to church and starts shooting isn't there to meet Jesus...they're there to meet Jesus NOW!!!

speedsix wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:"Oh, yee of little faith...", why would you need a gun in the house of the Lord?

...we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley...I KNOW this was posted in jest...

Or a sarcasm font, something! Sarcasm is so hard to project in print.

OldCurlyWolf wrote:

speedsix wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:"Oh, yee of little faith...", why would you need a gun in the house of the Lord?

...we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley...I KNOW this was posted in jest...

Or a sarcasm font, something! Sarcasm is so hard to project in print.

Agreed, not everyone appreciates or recognizes the subtlety of sarcasm. There are some who become at a perceived sarcastic comment while others will at the same comment. Then there is a third group who in wonderment at comment's meaning and intent.

...I have found my self by each of those three campfires...ya just gotta get over it and get to toastin' yer marshmallows!!!