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Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:07 pm
by speedsix
...if we aren't willing to die for our freedom and our rights...they WILL be taken from us...our founding fathers clearly understood this...and put their lives, and those of their families, on the line...for us...can we do less for our children and theirs???

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:07 pm
by wharvey
EconDoc wrote:. . . Societies that disarm their honest citizens will be ruled by their thugs, criminals, and gansters in every way but in name.
:patriot: :txflag:
Only not in name because our rulers have made themselves almost immune from the laws we must follow. Some day a future dictionary may list the following as synonyms:
gangster, thug, hoodlum, criminal, racketeer, congressman, senator, city councilman, mayor, . . .

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:20 pm
by Heartland Patriot
DONT TREAD ON ME wrote:It is such a shame that they are like this.

Mass is such a beautiful place and it is just filled with history. I have an uncle that lives in Manchester-By-The-Sea and it is so calm and beautiful there. Just a short drive from Salem, Ipswich, Gloucester, Marblehead which are all absolutely awesome places. I absolutely love it there.

And they have to go and ruin it all with their laws and politics.
Though I'm a Texan (born and spent my childhood/teenage years here), I spent about half of my USAF career between two bases in Northern California. There is a LOT of beautiful countryside there, and variety from mountains to coastline and forest to desert...BUT, that place is ruined by its laws, and the people who elected those who created the terrible laws. Sometimes I would think about how that state must have been several decades ago...for goodness sakes, action-type pistol competitions (vs. bullseye, etc.) got their start in Southern California...whatever happens, we cannot allow those sorts of hideous excuses for laws to be applied to Texas.

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:31 pm
by speedsix
...we often blast Kalifornia, Messachussetts, Maryland, New Jersey, Ohio, (and even England)...we're not saying that there's nothing wonderful there...or that all the people there are stupid, or anything else that encompasses all of the residents...the comments are directed toward the way the governments there treat American citizens...and citizens of their own states...with no regard to human rights and liberties...ususally in the area we call 2A...we're saying we won't live under that kind of oppression...and we can't understand how people...free Americans, let the state governments tighten their grasp around their necks as tightly as they have without doing much more than swallowing hard...we know how to stop it...or repeal it...we haven't shed blood in Texas getting things as good as they are...but it took a lot of effort...and patience...and we're steadily moving in the right direction...I don't understand how free people allow things to get that bad...

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:51 pm
by Heartland Patriot
speedsix wrote:...we often blast Kalifornia, Messachussetts, Maryland, New Jersey, Ohio, (and even England)...we're not saying that there's nothing wonderful there...or that all the people there are stupid, or anything else that encompasses all of the residents...the comments are directed toward the way the governments there treat American citizens...and citizens of their own states...with no regard to human rights and liberties...ususally in the area we call 2A...we're saying we won't live under that kind of oppression...and we can't understand how people...free Americans, let the state governments tighten their grasp around their necks as tightly as they have without doing much more than swallowing hard...we know how to stop it...or repeal it...we haven't shed blood in Texas getting things as good as they are...but it took a lot of effort...and patience...and we're steadily moving in the right direction...I don't understand how free people allow things to get that bad...

Understood...not that anyone here said it, but across the interwebs I often see folks saying things like "I hope California falls into the ocean" or "We should just give it back to Mexico", that sort of stuff...but that is AMERICAN SOIL...Texas and California are the two states that have had the greatest numbers of folks serve in the US Armed Forces...it sickens me to see part of our nation like that...and that I felt I HAD to move away from there (not that a Texan ever feels right anywhere but the home state, ha ha)...but I simply couldn't remain there and FIGHT, so to speak...family comes first...however, I hope that someday we will be able to redeem that place, and all the areas in this nation where things have gone drastically wrong, like Massachusetts...

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:53 pm
by speedsix
...got a friend who had to get the family out of Ca...felt just like you do...is still adjusting to the freedom he's got in NH...

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:54 am
by tommyg
I worked in a reform school for several years I learned

that anything can be turned into a weapon. If the dear little

darlings could and did make knives in a highly restricted

double door school house. anyone in the Free world can make all kinds of

horrible improvised weapons.

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:55 am
by Purplehood
RoyGBiv wrote:
DONT TREAD ON ME wrote:Are politicians really this stupid?
The people who elect them are the truly stupid ones, no?
Hey, I think I object to that...but I am not sure.

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:41 pm
by VMI77
raptor wrote:2. They're not stupid. They know the laws will only disarm good guys. The criminals will be able to hurt and kill more victims, and that's why the law is passed. Because the politicians want innocent people to suffer. So, they're not stupid; They're evil.

I was going to agree, but I think chasfm11 has a little more accurate focus: what they're seeking is docility. I definitely agree that there are a lot of evil politicians.

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:57 pm
by HankB
Coming from UK to MA . . . pointless knives for your kitchen.

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Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:39 pm
by Dave2
HankB wrote:Coming from UK to MA . . . pointless knives for your kitchen.

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I can see how that design would lessen the chances of knife falling off the counter and cutting your foot on the way down*, but if I stab you with it that rounded bit will just make it hurt more.

*If you've got wood or linoleum flooring and the knife is falling point-down, a sharp traditional pointed knife might stick in the floor (or at least probably not bounce much), whereas this design could go off in who knows what direction.

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:14 pm
by VMI77
HankB wrote:Coming from UK to MA . . . pointless knives for your kitchen.

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Yeah, no criminal could ever put a sharp point on that with a file or a grinder.

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:51 pm
by HankB
VMI77 wrote: Yeah, no criminal could ever put a sharp point on that with a file or a grinder.
Maybe they passed a law against it?

Re: Mass. wants to restrict knife-sales now....

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:58 pm
by mamabearCali
Yep I am no metal smith but even I could easily put a point on the end of that knife. :roll: As always laws that disarm citizens only disarm those who are willing to obey the law, those who aren't willing (or have legislated themselves above the law) don't/won't care.